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Well, the fact is that is really hard to take advantage of our crappy upgrades, with the exception of Servant of Dark Powers, and I'm always thinking about a way to exploit the Wanted Criminal Upgrade (I thought I had a good way, but then realized that the upgrade specifies "drop", and every effect that I have seen that changes their location, is a place, so no wokou, no smugglers, etc... 

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4 hours ago, LeperColony said:

I'd worry about activation control with seven models.  If my opponent wins initiative and forces me to go first, or the turn has a critical action when I win initiative, so I go first, I think it's entirely possible that my opponent may get two or even three uncontested activations at the end of the turn.

That's what pass tokens are for! Another model is no better than a pass token from an activation control perspective.

For the main post, I've only played Jack Daw a tiny bit in Ressers, but some thoughts:

  • You have good tar pit models, but you want to avoid free hits on your model. The incorporeal can help hide behind terrain, but be careful - with only 4 inches, you can also get stuck behind big impassable terrain.
  • If you can get into melee before they've done much damage (and you being the first into melee), that makes a big difference. On your heels is great here.
  • Stack your upgrades well - you want to ensure you are getting all your bonuses for hitting enemies with upgrades.
  • It is fine to use Jack Daw for his ranged ability and keep him out of trouble.
  • It is also fine to send Jack Daw in and let him die (if that is part of your wider plan).
  • The crew is NOT good at running down enemy scheme runners. Make sure you have a plan for every 'zone' the enemy can score points. Don't wait to discover he has a lone scheme runner running around the board you can't catch. You need to be where the scheme runner is headed, not where it is.

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22 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said:

That's what pass tokens are for! Another model is no better than a pass token from an activation control perspective.

I don't think I agree.  Pass tokens allow you to shift when the uncontested activations occur, but they don't reduce the number of uncontested activations.  Another model does.

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1 hour ago, Zebo said:

Well, the fact is that is really hard to take advantage of our crappy upgrades, with the exception of Servant of Dark Powers, and I'm always thinking about a way to exploit the Wanted Criminal Upgrade (I thought I had a good way, but then realized that the upgrade specifies "drop", and every effect that I have seen that changes their location, is a place, so no wokou, no smugglers, etc... 

Yeah, I think Outcast upgrades are the worst in the game by a noticeable margin.  I know some guild players think their faction has a fair claim to the title, but I don't think it's even close.

That being said, I think Wanted Criminal could be useful for Parker.

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Have you played daw against ten thunders?

To me it seems like TT have too many good options for ruthless and in general their versatile models with armor and good shoot-actions seem like an uphill battle for daw from the beginning... 

Btw I only played daw as a resser but since his crew is very synergistic I don't think there is much difference in his declared faction...

What are your thoughts on that matter?

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On 5/15/2020 at 2:16 PM, LeperColony said:

Yeah, I think Outcast upgrades are the worst in the game by a noticeable margin.  I know some guild players think their faction has a fair claim to the title, but I don't think it's even close.

That being said, I think Wanted Criminal could be useful for Parker.

Wanted criminal is a joke in Parker, a bad stupid joke.  

First there's the range.  6 inches.  Well golly gee, my gun has a 12" range!  So I better walk pretty close to get my money.  Unfortunately this is often "close enough to get charged".  

Second there's this misperception that Parker's crew drops enemy scheme markers like mad.  It happens on a Tome, so 1 in 4 times.  Only Parker himself makes them drop one if the shot misses.  You can make it happen, but not only do you need to make it happen, you need to make it happen in the Wanted Criminal bubble.  

Then you have to actually get 2 stones of value out of this somehow.  Maybe stick it on a Wokou raider so you can use Swagger?  Oh boy.  

 

I've really only seen it as useful on Benny, because Benny and Wanted Criminal are now partners in some very silly rat engine shenanigans.  

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I've been mainlining the Viks and Parker and find all 3 of our upgrade not worth the tax anymore. I would rather have the stones...

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I have quite a bit of experience on jack and find it quite interesting to play with outcasts, mainly for the prospectors. The only upgrades i usually run are two hanged with servant of dark powers on them since terrifying 13 with jacks -1 wp is insane as long as u focus down ruthless models. The best thing about the prospectors i find is, that the soulstones are very flexibly usable. I have stopped taking 9ss caches with me because i find the opponent playing around the executes too much. I tend to save up any high crows that i draw early on(and you will usually draw one or two of them because of how many cards you draw) and use my ss to keep jack and the hanged alive. It is notable that the hanged are nearly unkillable if ss are used and they are near jack and even if they go down, the opponent has usually used his hand for it at which point the executes come in. They are good, but i find playing only for the executes not the best thing to do.

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