Jesy Blue Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 What rulings did you believe with your whole heart were right, but were ruled against? Hannah and the breadth of Tactical actions I thought she could take as a bonus action: I swore it was with the 10 points with everything else, she just feels not fully worth it as is Stealth vs Eyes of Night and other such range extending abilities: it felt thematically right that someone pulling the strings from far away would not be able to direct an w tion to someone they themselves could not perceive. What did you lose out on? (No gloating, we already have been beaten down enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagi21 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 That if I kill a model with Shove Aside, I still get to push myself. ("If a model is killed (and removed) from the first of these effects, any following effects (such as being Pushed, discarding cards, etc.) are ignored.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 Does it count if they errata it to fail? I was happy with charges from triggers doing attacks that can declare triggers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 There were several things I was like "yay vindicated" and several things where I was like ">.>" I was pretty darn wrong on the Misery 'may' and opponent choosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Nagi21 said: That if I kill a model with Shove Aside, I still get to push myself. ("If a model is killed (and removed) from the first of these effects, any following effects (such as being Pushed, discarding cards, etc.) are ignored.") That doesn't actually apply to shove aside. That's about actions like the one in the question that does X damage and then pushes the model. Shove Aside working or not when the model dies isn't something that was addressed this FAQ. 1.18. It doesn't follow how the rest of the timing chart works and is a deviation from 2nd edition. I'm not gonna say it's an errata disguised as an FAQ or anything like that since there wasn't anything hard going one way or the other, but it's definitely inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelshard Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 I was right about Stat only being the number and not the fate modifier/suit. But then they added the second paragraph saying that any fate modifier or suit in an action is always part of that action. So the overall result was me being wrong, even if my argument was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelst Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 I was sure that for Torment to allow you to draw a card, the model needed to have an upgrade attached before it suffered the damage, but you would still be allowed to draw a card if you killed a model with an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeperColony Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 GG was actually very favorable to my interpretations. However, I think often whether you end up being "right" or "wrong" in these cases has less to do with your argument and is more a function of luck. The most contentious points are almost always going to be matters of interpretation, for which there aren't clear resolutions and textual support for many different positions are possible. To me, the take away is to approach matters of interpretation flexibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingPhoenix Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 It's so weird Hannah has a completely different wording than Lazarus but it turns out to mean the same thing. Was not sure that stats followed the fate modifier/suit. I did not fully understand the multi-model replace rules, but then again I guess no one did that's why they wrote some new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchdown Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Lazarus isn't limited to tactical actions but is limited to non- actions, so they're not the same edit: also Laz could potentially take the copied action multiple times (3x if you hit the trigger) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_wahou Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 I was wrong on mimic. I really thought that you did not keep symbols and from the original action. I was also wrong on Nellie who gets her focus and draw when she forces an interact on an ennemy in one of her 2" aura. Both are good news for me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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