ebolazaire Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Hi all! I'm currently looking at picking up Jack and a few key minis that works well with him in an Outcast crew! I've not seen a lot of chatter about Outcast Jack, so my question to you is a bit of guidance as to which things are good to pick up for the crew? What have you found works well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 He's an overall good master and his crew is good as well. There are no bad models in the keyword, you just need to choose the necessary models for the schemepool. Suitable OOK models include Midnight Stalker (who becomes Tormented when Jack doesn't see him) and Emissary. Hans can stagger opponents with his rifle's trigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebolazaire Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 That's good to hear! The mentioned OOK stuff I already have so that's a good start Anything you would suggest that goes well for an in Keyword additional buy with the starter box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Guilty are your MVPs, Hanged are your bedrock. Every thing after that is up to your taste. I personally love Montresor & Dead Outlaws, my friend lives for the Drowned and Jaakuna Ubume. There's no wrong way to Torment! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jesy Blue said: Guilty are your MVPs, Hanged are your bedrock. Every thing after that is up to your taste. I personally love Montresor & Dead Outlaws, my friend lives for the Drowned and Datsu Ba. There's no wrong way to Torment! Did you mean Jaakuna Ubume, not Datsue Ba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 shhhhhh.... hide my shame! don't torment me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, ebolazaire said: That's good to hear! The mentioned OOK stuff I already have so that's a good start Anything you would suggest that goes well for an in Keyword additional buy with the starter box? Dead Outlaws are very good for shooting, movinf the crew and giving out Fast. Hanged are unexpectedly good for both killing and scheming. They can use stones to built-in triggers like dropping markers next to enemies. They can take Servant upgrade to have Terrifying 13. Crooked men give out a lot of Staggered and can drop a lot of markers, too. Undertow box includes Jaakuna and Drowned. The Enforcer is a good luring tarpit, who stacks with the crooked men. Drowned aren't as strong, but can be useful, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebolazaire Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Awesome thanks all! I like the look of Jaakuna's mini, but she doesn't fit well with the rest of the look for me! I'll look at picking up Hanged along with the box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychogeek Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, ebolazaire said: Awesome thanks all! I like the look of Jaakuna's mini, but she doesn't fit well with the rest of the look for me! I'll look at picking up Hanged along with the box I am no daw expert but tbh I always find myself with double hanged and double guilty. I don’t like his rezzer options when playing him in outcast otherwise as the hanged bring such value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebolazaire Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 15 hours ago, psychogeek said: I am no daw expert but tbh I always find myself with double hanged and double guilty. I don’t like his rezzer options when playing him in outcast otherwise as the hanged bring such value. Good to hear! I went with the transparent crewbox and a box of hanged! Now fingers crossed that they make it safely through our postal service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamelessOne Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Jack and the Hanged use a ton of soulstones, both for defense and their awesome attack triggers, so I always hire one or two Prospectors on my crews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebolazaire Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 I keep imagining that i saw a M3E Jack Daw focused pod cast somewhere but for the life of me can't remember which one it was or find it again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 There's a Third Floor Wars quick hit video: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebolazaire Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Jesy Blue said: There's a Third Floor Wars quick hit video: This might be it! Thanks much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathinabox Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I always hire a prospector. The crew is so stone hungry. There's also a cool trick you can do turn 1 with Dead Outlaw, Guilty, and Prospector (all 3 good models you're likely taking anyway. Dead Outlaw charges and shoots Guilty with a tome to do 2 damage and drop and enemy scheme marker into base contact with the Guilty. Prospector wakes up, pushes to scheme marker and picks it u, gaining a ss, then does his normal thing. You just traded a low tome, 2 damage on a model that wants to die, and a prospector ap for a ss. All without slowing anyone down significantly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drfaust176 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 19 hours ago, Deathinabox said: Dead Outlaw charges and shoots Guilty with a tome to do 2 damage and drop and enemy scheme marker into base contact with the Guilty. That part won’t actually work- the Tome trigger specifies enemy only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 In Fact, Guilty may be treated as enemy by friendly tormented models 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkoon Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Zebo said: In Fact, Guilty may be treated as enemy by friendly tormented models Got to love the synergy between dead outlaws and guilty That ekstra damage from "at gunpoint" trigger, also makes the guilty quite scary once the get into range of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drfaust176 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 D’oh, forgot about that. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 You can also attach Wanted Criminal to a Dead Outlaw to give you more stones and cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboyd Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I can recommend jaakune. She works brilliantly with the crew and her drowning aura is punishing. She is especially great against high activation models. Attacking 6 times with hinamatsu doesn't seem quite as clever when she is taking 1 damage per action from the aura and a ping of damage from vengeance everytime she damages jaakune. She is also a good target for montresors cursed to watch ability allowing her an extra lure on a key target. She combos nicely with crooked men. Shafted and drowning aura can be one of the most efficient ways to get staggered out, being mostly passive only taking one free action to get up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giovanni Canzanella Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm using Jack Daw a lot lately, especially into Outcast, but I see that you already got a lot of answers here, so here is my 2 cents for you In my opinion, for the best possible use of Jack's crew, you will need at the very least 5 SS (I normally take 7, since I use my Hanged a lot for his Triggers). 1 Hanged is usually enough (with Servants of Dark Powers upgrade, it' a must) and you definitely want to take at least 2 Guilties with you. Dead Outlaws are great if you want to mess with Enemy's Markers (discarding them and giving out Fast condition to Montresor or the Hanged). Jaakuna is definitely worth considering, against Melee-oriented crews (i.e. she works fine against Ulix's Pigs. My opponent never dare to send those fatties close to her). Midnight Stalker is a good option if you need a good Scheme runner, but personally I never used him; I've found Jack doing alright even without him. I used the Drawned a couple of times, they are ok and worth considering against a heavy melee crew. Keep your Crew well clustered together, and Ligeia close, to drain your opponent's hand. Once your opponent has no cards left, you can start attacking with Montresor and Jack Daw, using the Execute trigger; this is the main reason to have TONS of SS with you. With Jack and Montresor, you always want to have Crows in your attacks to trigger the Execute. This will force your opponent to burn his SS just to defend...and once his SS are over, is basically GG for you. Careful though, because Jack Daw is not immortal, and sending him straight into the flay can result in a premature dead for him. Have fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingalen Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Have anyone tried hiring Marlena with Jack Daw, or is she just too expensive support with no real synergy with the tormented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 She's a good OOK model with obvious synergy with Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Her cost and lack of Tormented prevent real synergy with the rest of the crew, but if Assasinate is in the pool she's a godsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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