No Archie to get anywhere... What to take instead?

[Harlekin]

Well, everybody absolutely recommends Archie for Molly (or OOK fun). Even I as a totally new player am able to see his assets. 

BUT: he is sold out. 

So, what would you recommend to use instead of him? And why? 

[Daysleeper]

Easy ... just use Arrrchie, he's almost as good as the original, some would argue better!

On a more serious note, i think it depends on what you want from archie. No other model does all the same thing - sure. But if wou want a fast, robust model i would go with Manos. If you want your min 3 beater who can take a punch it's the grave golem. Rider is also fast, killy and is no push over.

[Rob Lo]

I fully suggest putting the pirate hat on a 50mm base. 100% Wyrd model. Maybe hanging on the corner of a gravestone if you want to get all fancy about it.

 

Here lies Archie,

A giant of a man, who

loved his ice cream a bit too much.

 

[LeperColony]

I wasn't even able to get Archie in my Gencon order (he was replaced by the green note of doom, so I suppose he'll arrive eventually).

[newsun]

I have one which will be listed on bartertown today/tomorrow. Be the lucky one to purchase from me.

[Maniacal_cackle]

It is matchup dependent.

Archie is good against Kaeris for his survivability. Good on plant explosives for maneuverability. Etc.

Dead rider is a good substitute in many cases, but crooligans can't teleport to him.

If using him as a beacon for crooligans, Rogue necromancy is really the main substitution option. However, P&N is also a good beacon, so P&N + dead rider for instance might work.

[explorator]

I use the Simulacrum model for Archie.

[Maniacal_cackle]

What models do you currently own? Perhaps we could identify what your crew is missing that Archie fixes, and then suggest models based on the gaps.

But in a vacuum, I suspect Dead Rider or Rogue Necromancy will be 'close enough' for casual play. You'd feel it in a a serious tournament or against condition crews like McMourning, but should be fine most of the time.

[Michael Curran]

Archie is awesome, even out of keyword, he is a leaping wrecker of crews.  Make a tombstone, put his pirate hat on it as mentioned.  Hopefully, WYRD can pick it up a bit here as demand as exceeded supply, wtf?  I hear this has happened prior editions as well.

[Trample]

I really do hope you're able to get Archie soon. He is one of my favorites. In a game yesterday he killed 3 models in a single turn! What a wonderful ball of destruction! As others have said through, I would look to Dead Rider until you can get him. After turn two he can get 3 min 3 attacks per turn as well.  

[thewrathchilde]

4 hours ago, Maniacal_cackle said:

If using him as a beacon for crooligans, Rogue necromancy is really the main substitution option. However, P&N is also a good beacon, so P&N + dead rider for instance might work.

the NM is the beacon of choice for me when the Rider is available for the first turn taxi service. 

[Maniacal_cackle]

33 minutes ago, thewrathchilde said:

the NM is the beacon of choice for me when the Rider is available for the first turn taxi service. 

That's a useful combo/point!

[Munindk]

The big zombie in the mindless zombie set could make a good Archie. 

Stick on a couple of extra arms from one of the other zombie, make a tentacle out of GS and you're golden.

[Butch]

As long as you're playing casual games I would use a proxy. That's what I'm doing. Until my Archie arrives I use the Dead Rider. No problem in my group.

[Harlekin]

About my pool of Resurrectionists: 

- everything Dr. M 

- everything Reva (with the exception of the strange wheel of fire) 

- everything Molly

- versatiles are: Effigy, Emissary, Gravediggers, Mortimer, Bone Piles, Asura, Zombies

I don't own Grave Golem (same problem as with Archie) and Rider is already part of my shopping cart. 

 

Thing is that I am looking forward to visit a tournament, soon - being totally new to the game I want to use any opportunity to do as many games as possible - and looking for some tips for 'competitive' play. (Of course, it will be me who experiences competition not my opponents) 

[Maniacal_cackle]

For McMourning, if you have dead rider, you have such good mobility options you don't really need Archie I suspect.

Don't worry about grave golem, it is a very niche model. I love it, but half of that is because I sculpted my own.

Not sure about Reva.

For Molly, if you have Rogue Necromancy already and are getting Dead Rider... That should be good enough. I imagine some would recommend Manos, but you can't buy him ATM either.

If you have night terrors + crooligans, you are a bit more flexible with your Molly list than I am, so I think you'll be fine.

More important is just playing tons of games and learning your models.

[Harlekin]

8 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said:

More important is just playing tons of games and learning your models.

Exactly this is my main plan. 

Sadly, the community in Munich (or Germany in general) isn't this big/active. But I will definitely try to change that. 

Worked really good with Infinity so I am looking forward to see some success for Malifaux, too. 

[marke83]

As you live in Europe, keep hunting.. unless you have absolutely looked from everywhere. Some Archies could be hiding, found mine from Sweden not many weeks ago.. had to use google translate and pay 18€ including postage, but totally worth it.