Hagisman Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 As opposed to Warhammer 40,000, Malifaux is not as Grim Dark when it comes to the masters you can choose I find. There is at least a couple of "Good Guys" in each faction and most (Not All) are written from a sympathetic light. It's not like 40k where the Chaos Space Marines flipped a switch and became evil overnight. Hoffman stops people from using organic tissue with cybernetics, but was a hypocrite because he was doing the same thing to his brother. Kirai was summoning the dead in order to get revenge on the people who killed her fiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeadclaw Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Jesy Blue said: He's not a cyborg... he's wearing an exoskeleton. No, he's not. It fused with him when the GG ascended to the Burning Man iirc? As part of the avatars going away. 5 hours ago, Jesy Blue said: he's an equal opportunity good cop: he's killing magic users, necromancers, zombies, constructs, and cyborgs. You know, I'm not sure what a "good cop" is supposed to look like in a fascist regime but killing magic users and cyborgs are real fucked up since he's a magic using cyborg. He isn't a good guy, even by Malifaux standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'll go with accidental cyborg.... a cyborg of convience. We'll make a three fifths cyborg compromise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Thedeadclaw said: You know, I'm not sure what a "good cop" is supposed to look like in a fascist regime but killing magic users and cyborgs are real fucked up since he's a magic using cyborg. He isn't a good guy, even by Malifaux standards. Yeah, because police shouldn’t use guns to kill bad guys that use guns to kill people. 🤯 I’m pretty sure that dual faction Guild/Arcanists is there as “Arcanist sympathisizer.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrokamo Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 My votes for Lynch. He prefers to make customers than enemies ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogid Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 22 hours ago, Necrokamo said: My votes for Lynch. He prefers to make customers than enemies ... Yeah! The fact that he hook them (and his own workers) on a magical drug and then feeds their bodies and souls to a wanna-be tyrant is an unimportant detail... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrokamo Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 @Ogid, those are minor details. They can always lead a full and happy life in the sewers of Malifaux as Depleteds 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 9:53 PM, solkan said: Yeah, because police shouldn’t use guns to kill bad guys that use guns to kill people. 🤯 I’m pretty sure that dual faction Guild/Arcanists is there as “Arcanist sympathisizer.” That dual faction is actually explained in the new arcanist book. I won't go into details, so that I don't spoil too much, but Hoffman figures there are more important things to deal with in Malifaux than Arcanists and is willing to cooperate with some of them if it helps him handle more urgent problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 hours ago, Necrokamo said: @Ogid, those are minor details. They can always lead a full and happy life in the sewers of Malifaux as Depleteds 😋 They'll be happy the rest of their life.... they're short, disgusting, hollow life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrokamo Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Jesy Blue said: They'll be happy the rest of their life.... they're short, disgusting, hollow life! But is a life expectancy greater than of a bayou dweller On other hand, a good character is Perdita, she always protects ($$$$) the inhabitants of Malifaux from the attacks of the Neverborn and even saved Sonia from one of her "Cherufe's moments" (and that evil woman doesn't invite her to play poker 😠). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I know, right?! Sonnia is NOT one of the good ones for so many reasons, but poker night takes the cake! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caver Ramos Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Sonnia is the second greatest asshole in the guild, amd yeah poker night was worst than what he did to Ramos or the witchings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRocketPants Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Guess it's really all a matter of point of view. While I agree that most of the Gremlins really aren't evil (also they are hilarious), the OP lists Toni and Mei Fang as good in Arcanists, and they are 2 of the most wretched and despicable characters in the whole story as far as I'm concerned. I do feel bad for some of the tragic characters even though they are clearly evil (Kirai, Molly, Asami, collodi....) except maybe Zoraida who could be considered only tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, SirRocketPants said: I do feel bad for some of the tragic characters even though they are clearly evil (Kirai, Molly, Asami, collodi....) except maybe Zoraida who could be considered only tragic. Are Kirai/Molly actually evil? Granted they're not above a bit of murder, but so far as I know they contain said murder to people who "deserve" it. Or are we putting the "righteous kill" more in the "murder" camp, in which case yeah I guess. Collodi is clearly nuts and is/was picking off random people in the street, I have no complaint there. I don't know enough about Asami to make that call. Last time I read fluff on her was her origin story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Clement said: Are Kirai/Molly actually evil? Granted they're not above a bit of murder, but so far as I know they contain said murder to people who "deserve" it. They are pretty indiscriminate in the new ressur book with some of their killing... Molly might be going a bit crazy though, so is a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: They are pretty indiscriminate in the new ressur book with some of their killing... Molly might be going a bit crazy though, so is a factor. awww.... I should really get/read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: They are pretty indiscriminate in the new ressur book with some of their killing... Molly might be going a bit crazy though, so is a factor. I think you’re being a bit unfair. Hardly any innocent people died in Kirai’s and Molly’s stories, when they could help it. Not like the other story in that book. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, solkan said: I think you’re being a bit unfair. Hardly any innocent people died in Kirai’s and Molly’s stories, when they could help it. Not like the other story in that book. 😬 Eh, there were several guardsmen in Molly's story that seemed just like normal people that she had no qualms with killing or worse. They might have been bad people, but there wasn't really a lot to go on. And, well, Kirai... most of those were likely bad people, but, without giving anything away, she had no real issue killing innocents if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Paddywhack said: Eh, there were several guardsmen in Molly's story that seemed just like normal people that she had no qualms with killing or worse. They might have been bad people, but there wasn't really a lot to go on. And, well, Kirai... most of those were likely bad people, but, without giving anything away, she had no real issue killing innocents if needed. Without giving anything away... In Molly’s defense, a lot of those people deserved it or just weren’t being reasonable. And Kirai felt bad. The two characters I’m not going to name didn’t even seem to feel bad about what they did. Isn’t “Nice people, for Ressers” pretty good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, solkan said: Isn’t “Nice people, for Ressers” pretty good? Sure They are probably the nicest of the Resurrs. Though VonSchtook is just trying to help people better themselves too 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrokamo Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Kirai was about to cross the line between killing for defending herself to kill to fulfill her obsessions (the rite) although after the conclusion of her story it would be to seen what new attitude Kirai will take. No one denies that she prevented Plague from consuming Malifaux in a pestilent cloud during the passage of the comet (heroine ) but it gives the impression that ikiryo will be the dominant personality by becoming her new totem for this edition ( ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caver Ramos Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/24/2019 at 4:48 PM, Paddywhack said: Sure They are probably the nicest of the Resurrs. Though VonSchtook is just trying to help people better themselves too 😄 I just dont get Von Schill, on the outside he looks like a nice guy, whose scientific pursuits lead him to start practicing necromancy, ala mcmourning. I just dont see him being as blatantly evil as his student... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toqtamish Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Caver Ramos said: I just dont get Von Schill, on the outside he looks like a nice guy, whose scientific pursuits lead him to start practicing necromancy, ala mcmourning. I just dont see him being as blatantly evil as his student... Von Schtook, Von Schill is the leader of the Freikorps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrokamo Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Toqtamish said: Von Schtook, Von Schill is the leader of the Freikorps. Maybe it's what he wants us all to think... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Wallace Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 This is open to debate, but I think this list works to interpret each character's general outlook. The Good Motivated by the "greater good" (though their interpretations vary). BasseHoffmanJustice NelliePerditaEuripidesLilithZoraidaMollyRevaIronsidesMei FengSandeepMisakiBrewmasterOphelia The Bad Ruthless and often sadistic in pursuit of their obsessions. Sonnia LuciusJack DawKiraiSeamus McMourningNicodemVon SchtookCollodiDreamer Nekima PandoraTitaniaKaerisRamos RasputinaHamelinTaraAsamiShenlong Yan Lo The Ugly Nominally self-interested, but adaptive and pragmatic enough to know when to look at the big picture. BarkerColetteMarcusLeveticus Parker Viktoria(s)Von SchillZippLucas Lynch YoukoMah Tucket Ulix Wong Som'er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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