SerZaka Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Probably this was already answered in the beta Forum but it is closed now. The "damage flip" of the disengage (the 2/4/6 one) is a damage flip, right? Hard to wound works? And the + damage from the GreatSwords if you didn't charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Franchute Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 I agree with @thatlatinspeakingguy. To be more precise, on page 24, you can find the definition of a Damage flip: Quote Damage Flips A damage flip is a variable flip that determines how much damage a model suffers due to an effect. Damage flips are not a type of duel and are unaffected by game effects that reference duels. The most common modifier for damage flips is an Accuracy Fate Modifier. While on page 22 it is said that the disengage action resolves as follows: Quote Disengage Can only be declared while engaged. One enemy model engaging this model (opponent’s choice) may take a Attack targeting this model; neither model can declare Triggers as a result of this Attack. After resolving the Attack (if any), this model pushes up to its Mv in inches. If the attack is successful, instead of its normal effects, reduce this model’s Push distance by 2/4/6 inches (using the Accuracy Fate Modifier of the Action). This flip receives a for every other enemy model engaging this model. Hence, the variable flip involved is not a damage flip because it does not determine how much damage a model suffers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 thatlatinspeakingguy Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SerZaka said: Probably this was already answered in the beta Forum but it is closed now. The "damage flip" of the disengage (the 2/4/6 one) is a damage flip, right? Hard to wound works? And the + damage from the GreatSwords if you didn't charge? it's not a damage flip, so Hard to Wound or + from Great Sword do not count. however, you apply any accuracy fate modifiers resulting from the difference in the final duel total. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SerZaka Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 So focus doesn't count too , right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nikodemus Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 9 hours ago, SerZaka said: So focus doesn't count too , right? If we're going with the idea that disengaging doesn't produce a damage flip, no it doesn't count. See page 29: Quote Focused +X: Before performing an opposed duel, this model may lower the value of this Condition by one to receive a + to the duel (and any resulting damage flip this model makes). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 thatlatinspeakingguy Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 hours ago, SerZaka said: So focus doesn't count too , right? As Nikodemus wrote, you don't get + to that 2/4/6 flip (which is not a damage flip), but you can still lower your Focused value to get + to the Attack action you make against disengaging opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Probably this was already answered in the beta Forum but it is closed now. The "damage flip" of the disengage (the 2/4/6 one) is a damage flip, right? Hard to wound works? And the + damage from the GreatSwords if you didn't charge?
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