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Neverborn master counters

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Saw this on the Acarnist forums and thought it was a good idea.

What neverborn masters are easily countered? Are there some masters we would never pick into certain factions?

Personally I feel we are in a good spot regarding hard counters. We don't have a Hoffman or Tara with obvious hard counters. Sure an opponent could pick non-living/undead against Nephilim, but I honestly don't think the growth mechanic is strong enough to bother counter picking against. Dreamer can suffer from anti-bury, but usually you can get the summon out in the same activation it's summoned, so it's a minor issue.

 

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Arik from Friekorp makes life pretty hard for Dreamer. 

Tara and crew being able to attack buried models is also pretty hard on a Dreamer crew, but not as bad.

I have concentrated on Dreamer and Titania for the Beta, but I suspect a crew that can ignore conditions such as Hamelin might give Pandora trouble.

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2 hours ago, Yajnho said:

Arik from Friekorp makes life pretty hard for Dreamer. 

Tara and crew being able to attack buried models is also pretty hard on a Dreamer crew, but not as bad.

I have concentrated on Dreamer and Titania for the Beta, but I suspect a crew that can ignore conditions such as Hamelin might give Pandora trouble.

The Jury also makes life hard for Dreamer.

 

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I'm not sure the jury is worth taking against Dreamer, unless you play marshals. She's a hard counter to Bandersnatch, and she makes summoning a tad more difficult to time. But not enough to justify 9 stones.

Generally I find Dreamer has a much bigger issue with ruthless and focus crews than anti burying. 

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12 hours ago, Angelshard said:

I'm not sure the jury is worth taking against Dreamer, unless you play marshals. She's a hard counter to Bandersnatch, and she makes summoning a tad more difficult to time. But not enough to justify 9 stones.

Generally I find Dreamer has a much bigger issue with ruthless and focus crews than anti burying. 

She also just damages models with a summoned upgrade, meaning you can't leave a daydream burried, and every other summon aside from an IM will lose half it's health.

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If they're buried when she activates. I can usually get my summon out in the same activation as I summon.

I agree she can counter him somewhat, but I don't think you'll see her against Dreamer, outside of a marshal crew. 9 stones for a bit of damage to summoned models doesn't seem worth it.

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I'm at first a Pandora/Dreamer player, and the only time I thought that my opponent's list was a really good combination of counters, was against ressers. This combination wasn't nice to have against: ruthless (upgrades, seamus), mourner (negates my ruthless - often against ressers I would pick rider+carver), carrion emissary (aura that negates soulstones)

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