Dimensional Instability

[katadder]

If a unit starts in contact with a portal can it teleport before being given an order so that it can move after the teleport? or do orders come first?

[retnab]

A Cult unit can teleport if it starts its activation in base contact with a Portal Marker, but you can't take any movement from your Order if you do so.

[solkan]

Keep in mind that in most cases if the unit starts its activation in base contact with a portal, the unit could have teleported through the portal earlier.

For instance...

You've got a Rhino two inches from a portal and you've got initiative at the start of the turn.  At the start of the turn you discard a card to move that portal into base contact with the Rhino.  You teleport the Rhino to a different portal.  Then, when the rhino activates it can either teleport through the portal (because it's still in base contact) and it won't be able to use the movement from its order; or you can choose not to teleport it and move from where it is.

If you had decided not to teleport the Rhino through the portal when you moved the portal, then when it activates it can be placed but won't be able to move from where it is.

Presumably the start of the activation teleportation effect is so Cult players complain that they can't use portals that they're standing right next to when they focus.  

Disclaimer:  Yeah, this means that this phrase "Fireteams that move in this way may not use any remaining movement that was granted by the Order" is applying even though you haven't declared an order yet.  The Burning Man travels back through time and opens tears in the fabric of reality, so do his rules.  

[Pergli]

Yes. The rule says if the unit starts in base contact so you can teleport before giving orders. 

[trikk]

On 1/14/2019 at 12:36 AM, solkan said:

Keep in mind that in most cases if the unit starts its activation in base contact with a portal, the unit could have teleported through the portal earlier.

For instance...

You've got a Rhino two inches from a portal and you've got initiative at the start of the turn.  At the start of the turn you discard a card to move that portal into base contact with the Rhino.  You teleport the Rhino to a different portal.  Then, when the rhino activates it can either teleport through the portal (because it's still in base contact) and it won't be able to use the movement from its order; or you can choose not to teleport it and move from where it is.

If you had decided not to teleport the Rhino through the portal when you moved the portal, then when it activates it can be placed but won't be able to move from where it is.

Presumably the start of the activation teleportation effect is so Cult players complain that they can't use portals that they're standing right next to when they focus.  

Disclaimer:  Yeah, this means that this phrase "Fireteams that move in this way may not use any remaining movement that was granted by the Order" is applying even though you haven't declared an order yet.  The Burning Man travels back through time and opens tears in the fabric of reality, so do his rules.  

The whole rule for Dimensional Instability is a big mess for me but I don`t see a reason why you wouldn`t be allowed to move.

 

The term "this order" is very misleading. I doesn't say what happens if the teleport is outside of the units activation. It doesn'`t say what happens if its done by extra movement etc. The whole "this order" suggests that you can teleport just during your activation but there are no clear restrictions so I have no idea how exactly the whole rule is suppose to work.