Fetid Strumpet Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Seamus can summon full health models. The fact that you forgot shows how “amazing” it is. Kirai’s summon mechanic is just as bad as Nico’s was and really needs a rework, in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Fetid Strumpet said: Kirai’s summon mechanic is just as bad as Nico’s was and really needs a rework, in my opinion. Ekhm.... what??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, daniello_s said: Ekhm.... what??? Summoning with minimal requirements, kirai is capable of spending all her ap summoning relatively high powered models. You just need cards and another model. And it's not too hard to build easy ways to heal your wound provider ( or provide cheap models to use as wound pools). I don't have as much of a problem with their summons as fetid, but the faction has evolved over time to largely bypass the down sides. At worst her summoning is wound neutral and ap gain, and a lot of it actually gains the crew wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Adran said: I don't have as much of a problem with their summons as fetid, but the faction has evolved over time to largely bypass the down sides. At worst her summoning is wound neutral and ap gain, and a lot of it actually gains the crew wounds. This much is true even for Sonnia's summoning, so it doesn't automatically even pass the bar for useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Myyrä said: This much is true even for Sonnia's summoning, so it doesn't automatically even pass the bar for useful. All summoning ought to result in some form of gain, otherwise why do it. But there needs to be some level of cost to it. The wider the potential summon pool, the greater the risk it will cause a problem. Kirai has 3 costs for her normal summons, her AP, target number(so card requirements) and a model to donate wounds. But the faction has some of the best tricks to bypass the card requirements, and there are several ways to get the wounds ( simplest is probably just summoning seishin when your lower wound models die, or ordering your summons to get the most off a single model. Ie turn a night terror into a hanged, a drowned and a night terror (from the drowned) for her 3 ap, ) so the wounds cost is not too hard to resolve. I guess I was answering the claim her summons hurt her crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Adran said: All summoning ought to result in some form of gain, otherwise why do it. But there needs to be some level of cost to it. The wider the potential summon pool, the greater the risk it will cause a problem. Kirai has 3 costs for her normal summons, her AP, target number(so card requirements) and a model to donate wounds. But the faction has some of the best tricks to bypass the card requirements, and there are several ways to get the wounds ( simplest is probably just summoning seishin when your lower wound models die, or ordering your summons to get the most off a single model. Ie turn a night terror into a hanged, a drowned and a night terror (from the drowned) for her 3 ap, ) so the wounds cost is not too hard to resolve. I guess I was answering the claim her summons hurt her crew. I agree with you there. If you manage to hurt your crew more than help it with Kirai's summoning you are doing something seriously wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimO Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 I hemmed and hawed about posting here or adding another thread...This feels like it's slightly more right. Looks like the updated cards are available on WGV. I see Nicodem, Undertaker, and Sandeep, but I can't find Burn Out. I know it's just a clarification to make it work correctly, but I'm a stickler for completeness. I know sometimes in the past the card was up, but couldn't be found via search. Does anyone have a link to the updated Burn Out card? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nef Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 11:21 AM, JimO said: I hemmed and hawed about posting here or adding another thread...This feels like it's slightly more right. Looks like the updated cards are available on WGV. I see Nicodem, Undertaker, and Sandeep, but I can't find Burn Out. I know it's just a clarification to make it work correctly, but I'm a stickler for completeness. I know sometimes in the past the card was up, but couldn't be found via search. Does anyone have a link to the updated Burn Out card? Thanks! http://www.wargamevault.com/product/246078/Burn-Out?src=newest A link for you in case you still couldn't find it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I was checking the malifaux app and I noticed that the reanimator description was not updated. The wound count on Nicodem and the Undertaker upgrade's descriptions were updated, but reanimator still say the summoned model takes half damage insteaf of all wounds minus 1. I made sure I was not missing any updates on the app and that the data base is up tout date. Is there an official contact for these kind of "issues" with the app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiba Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, MajorUndead said: Is there an official contact for these kind of "issues" with the app? https://www.wyrd-games.net/contact There's a form for App Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, emiba said: https://www.wyrd-games.net/contact There's a form for App Support. Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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