Wimmlo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hey Guys! I'm new to this hobby and got Marcus and some Silurids as Starter. But now I want something new. My goal is to created a 50SS list, which includes every model and is cheap as hack. In others words: 1x Master Box and 1x Something Box. I got 3 Lists to vote. Maybe you can tell me, which is the most versatile List for strats and schemes nowadays and maybe some suggestions, what can I change. 1) Lady Justice (Implacable, Swordfighter & Badge of Office) 4 Scales of Justice 3 The Jury (unrelenting Leader) 10 3x Death Marshals 18 2x Guild Austringer 12 2) Sonnia Criid (Disrupt Magic, Badge of Office & Counterspell Aura) 5 Purifying Flame 3 Samael Hopkins (witchhunt & Expert Sleuth ) 11 3x Witchling Stalker 15 2x Guild Austringer 12 3) Lucius ( Secret Assets & Deep Pocket ) 4 The Scribe 2 Captain Dashel (Arrest Him) 8 2x Witchling Thralls 18 2x Guild Lawyer 10 2x Guild Guard 6 So? Meaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatterbrain Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, Wimmlo said: My goal is to created a 50SS list, which includes every model and is cheap as hack. In others words: 1x Master Box and 1x Something Box. Do you mean you want to include every model that comes in both the Master's Box and the second box (e.g. a box of 3 Minions) in your 50SS list? To avoid having leftovers/wastage? It took me a moment to figure out what you likely meant. I thought at first that you wanted to include every model in the faction in a 50SS list, and I was afraid I was going to have to be the bearer of bad news to cause disappointment. If that's the case, you'd want to make sure that if you include a box of 3 Minions, that they're very good and versatile Minions. But I don't know anything about Guild pieces, so I'll let those who are more experienced give you specific recommendations there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimmlo Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 What you say: no left overs xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchute Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ramos is a master that many play competitively with all models in the starter box. Given that you already have Marcus you could complete it easily. You would need a mobile toolkit or an electric creation or a union steamfitter to start your summoning engine though. I dont see a master in guild that typically uses all models in the starter box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchute Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Here an example: 50 SS Arcanists Crew Ramos + 6 Pool - Under Pressure (2) - Arcane Reservoir (2) - Field Generator (2) Brass Arachnid (4) Joss (10) - Powered By Flame (2) - Bleeding Edge Tech (1) Myranda (8) - Imbued Energies (1) Howard Langston (12) Mobile Toolkit (3) (exported from CrewFaux) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Apart from not having guard models for Dashel to summon I tink the Lucius liat couldnactually have some merit. The Sonnia list should have handlers for theme I think. Might be atrictly worse than the austringers but the stalkers would become quite decent scheme runners at walk 6 turn 1 and probably at least 5 later turns. You will really miss Francisco though, not sure Sonnia can live without him. I know too little about Justice to really comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 All 3 lists are playable. (Assuming you mean Judge, not jury in the Justice list). I'm not sure how versatile they can be, but they could compete in all scheme/strategy combinations (soem better than otehrs). I would also suggest Perditas box plus a Brutal effigy as a 50 ss crew. I strongly suggest not getting into a mindset that you can't change upgrades from game to game, but thats because I am a big fan of the adapting to match the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sonnia needs cherufe's imprint.btw, that is why you bring the child, for double flame walls to control large parts of the board. You cn safely drop badge of office, qithout any pushes in the crew she might as well be dead if they engage her and no one will ever try to have a shoot off with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Ludvig said: Sonnia needs cherufe's imprint.btw, that is why you bring the child, for double flame walls to control large parts of the board. Needs is a very strong word. Often wants is probably better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 @Adran In a Sonnia list with a Malifaux child and no Francisco I am inclined to say needs is the right word even if I agree with you on using it sparingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimmlo Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thx for the quick reaction, but they didn't answer my question. I know that Francesco is THE Guild Key model to nearly every list, but he only comes in the Latigo Posse Box. And that would destroy my Plan of a cheap allcorner list. I am not part of a competitive group, we just start this hobby. And i don't like the fact, that i'll Buy a Box to use just One model. In example a box of Death Marshals, where I just need one of them. I hope my intentions are clear now. :-) And I've chosen the guild for their simplicity. Don't know if the plan of 1x Master Box + 1x something else would fit into the other factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I think it works just as well in any faction, the only ones who need a ton of models are summoners so stay away from those in that case. Guild aren't more basic or vanilla than the other factions in my opinion. Maybe they are model wise, lots of duster coats and plain humans. I wasn't saying you need to buy Francisco I said that if you are spending money on the child from a limited budget I think you need to have the upgrade that gives Sonnia flame walls (it comes in her box). If you don't want to spam flame walls I think the brutal effigy is a lot better for Sonnia and Lady J as well as several others so it wil save you money in the long run if you ever expand. Copying her normal attacks with the child is a very poor use of it since it gets a negative on the damage meaning you will almost never blast. The reason the child is popular with Sonnia is for copying the walls since that action doesn't need to win a duel with the opponent, just hit a fixed number and you have the full effect so you don't care about the negative to damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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