Xaos Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I recently came up with an idea of the highly mobile crew: Pandora (Box Opens) 4SS Nekima Doppleganger Mr. Graves Changeling Changeling Changeling Silurid The idea is to use Mr. Graves's attack to push whole crew around (both Changelings and Doppleganger can copy that attack), which allows both Nekima and Pandora to spend all their actions on killing enemy models. Silurid is IMO one of the best scheme runners, so that's his job. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think changelings need like a ten or so to meet the Tn of his push so you're going to have trouble doing much after cheating all those pushes. Apart from that little detail I think it sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feagaur Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 The TN on Show ya the door is 13, so the changelings would need a 9, and to be honest Nekima is mobile enough. Pandora on the other hand could do with help. But she works well enough if you just wait for your opponent to come to you. You'd have the help of the sorrows etc then. If you really want to get the pushes up you might be better taking 2 beckoners and push them with graves and the doppleganger and then lure Pandora and Nekima up. It'd be a little slower for Pandora on each lure, but you can get 2 off. Alternatively, take Serena Bowman and give 2 Beckoners 'from the shadows'? It'll be expensive but you're looking at lures from around the half way line from the start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'd need Serena, she's not available at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelshard Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 If you're using three changelings I would recommend using the emissary instead and summon them in. He's 2 stones less and his Conflux is awesome with Pandora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feagaur Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Xaos said: I'd need Serena, she's not available at the moment you could always Proxy for now. The Through The Breach Female parts kit is useful for it. Or if you're playing a friendly game just use a female figure on a 30mm base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Angelshard said: If you're using three changelings I would recommend using the emissary instead and summon them in. He's 2 stones less and his Conflux is awesome with Pandora. Yep, but he needs quite some time to summon changelings, first - scheme marker, then apropriate card... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroMog Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 i thought about using this idea as well using titania and adding in the mysterious emissary but i am torn between using titania or collodi. with titania i can get more pushes, but with collodi i can pass out more so that the changlings can pass the TN a bit easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorschlag Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 It works with Lucius due to positive flips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelshard Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Xaos said: Yep, but he needs quite some time to summon changelings, first - scheme marker, then apropriate card... He does, but I find the extra resources are worth it considering what he brings to the table. Granted I normally use him, in Pandora, with candy or Aeslin so I can get casting expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm a Teapot! Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 18 hours ago, feagaur said: The TN on Show ya the door is 13, so the changelings would need a 9, and to be honest Nekima is mobile enough. Pandora on the other hand could do with help. But she works well enough if you just wait for your opponent to come to you. You'd have the help of the sorrows etc then. If you really want to get the pushes up you might be better taking 2 beckoners and push them with graves and the doppleganger and then lure Pandora and Nekima up. It'd be a little slower for Pandora on each lure, but you can get 2 off. Alternatively, take Serena Bowman and give 2 Beckoners 'from the shadows'? It'll be expensive but you're looking at lures from around the half way line from the start. lilithu and a doppleganger are better then 2 beckoners inmy opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I agree, Beckoners aren't that good (despite my love to those models). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feagaur Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, I'm a Teapot! said: lilithu and a doppleganger are better then 2 beckoners inmy opinion. For the most part I agree, but I think the Beckoners work quite well with Pandora. Though if you do run with Serena then Lilitu would work better as she already has black blood for Serena to cast Tendrils through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I faced something similar at the weekend in a stake a claim game. I was using "Leaping Marcus" list which out mobilisiied it, and was able to remove critical pieces every turn because they were pushed forward into my ranges It didn't have the changlings, and was lead by Lilith, I Killed Johan and the Doppleganger on turn 1, Lilieth turn 2, Graves Turn 3, and then just kept as much as I could running away from Nekima to get max points. It also looks like it has to start quite Clumped, which can be a gamble against some lists. But theory does not equal table results, so feel free to try and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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