PeregrineFalcon Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 @Aaron and @Mason as an FYI the Scribe card does not say minion but the OP does state it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 The only thing I'm truly disappointed with is Franc as his cuddle seems completely inconsequential. No one put him in the box and condition removal against a Wp 9 (or whatever) Master isn't going to come out often to say the least. OTOH it is in line with Papa so I can see the point but I really wish El Mayor had been made to go away at the end of the turn. Especially with the new Recruiters making Franc less necessary to Lady Justice, the only one left who truly "needs" El Mayor is McMourning. Not the end of the world or anything, mind, but the only change I truly disagree with (and it's about not going far enough so again better than nothing and if this is the only part I really disagree with it must indicate that the changes are really good). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Fixed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik1978 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Quote It starts to get confusing with so many changed cards. As long as they make the printer-friendly downloads available for the cards, I have no problem with it. I'd rather print a few pages and have a more balanced game than never ever see a Guardian on the table, to name an obvious one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 @Aaron, scribe is still ze peon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, trikk said: @Aaron, scribe is still ze peon Already fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Right? We as community organizers can make sure to remind/inform people when this stuff comes out, and help new players get 'caught up' when new information is presented in the crews they select. I'm pumped about many of these changes! (And the ones I'm not pumped about is because I don't play or play against the things, so I don't have any feelings about it). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said: As for the Lenny cuddle - too bad it hits Mah as well as Ophelia and Somer. As Mah didn't need a cuddle and I felt that the Lenny thing made for interesting things with her (less so with Ophelia). Oh well, I've played her lots without Lenny (as I've played Ophelia) so I guess I'll survive Yeah I'm really into all of the other changes (the void keyword in particular is pretty nice!) but this one makes me sad. I get that Ooo A Girl-ing Lenny around with Ophelia made her hit a bit harder than was maybe fair, but then Som'er still has plenty of ways to give himself the Ram, and it means Mah has to stone for her 1AP charge trigger, which idk is kind of a big deal, and carting Lenny around further up was always harder than leaving him supporting a ranged master. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leebat Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Aaron said: Already fixed it Yes I agree you have fixed it ? @Aaron I really like the changes ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfarst Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hmm. The new miner rules seems great although i dont quite understand them. If the miner uses false claim twice, and none of them are removed - do you then discard two or one of the four? And for instance if Colette prompt one miner, and at the end of the turn five is active - how many do you discard then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 When will the cards be available @Wargame Vault? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Oh but on the plus side, now I no longer have to work out what the heck happens when Sensei Yu uses drinking contest. GIANT DRUNK TEN THUNDERS BUBBLE GO! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psientologist Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, trikk said: When will the cards be available @Wargame Vault? This is a pretty important question that I hope we get an answer to soon @Aaron x 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koronuslight Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm just here for the complaints... er... comments... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhat Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, trikk said: When will the cards be available @Wargame Vault? Probably not for awhile. We just got Wave 3. I'm really glad this is how Wyrd is going over all of the 0SS upgrades. I don't agree with all of the changes, but it's certainly a step in a great direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Slartibartfarst said: Hmm. The new miner rules seems great although i dont quite understand them. If the miner uses false claim twice, and none of them are removed - do you then discard two or one of the four? And for instance if Colette prompt one miner, and at the end of the turn five is active - how many do you discard then? If I undestand correctly you have 3 pairs of markers. From each pair, if both are in play remove one. So if you cast it 3 times and noone discarded your marker you discard 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucidicide Posted December 22, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I am literally exporting to upload to Wargame Vault right now. Then there is a delay until we can make them available. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnicide Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 This is awesome, thanks! As for the people worrying about it, I don't think it will be that big of a deal, actually. For tourneys the organizers can just print up the extra cards and have them available for use. For friendly pickup games, just telling most people about them and they can get them easily enough, or if they really object, they can house rules the old ones, it's not like the wyrd game enforcement police are going to kick in their doors and burn their old cards. This allows much greater control and rather than just sucking up a major balance issue (Rooster Riders, Belles - from what I play) it lets them be fixed in a reasonable amount of time and nudge the course of the game rather than making sweeping changes. Bravo to all involved! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelst Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, Aaron said: Tara: Clarified Stutter Time per FAQ, gained Infiltration (Void). Gained Void Characteristic. The post says Tara gained the Void characteristic, but in the document she doesn't have it. So, does she or does she not gain it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Your one busy pre-Christmas Aaron! They should be available around start of January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Axelst said: The post says Tara gained the Void characteristic, but in the document she doesn't have it. So, does she or does she not gain it? I forgot to remove that. She's not supposed to have Void. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endreus Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Great! Just a question.. how Long Will take to let these errata being available for printing service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadhna Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Oh. My. God. Tara was my top Master anyway, but with these buffs she's going to go on a rampage. Thanks for the errata, this helps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 These are all great. Thank you! One correction needed - Tara is missing the VOID characteristic on her card. Unless your breakdown in the OP is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Mouse Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looking very good, excellent set of changes! Belle cuddle has been coming for so long, they're still an awesome 5SS model so good job on not going too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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