Anung Un Rama Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 So I am putting my Ulix crew together and it seems a waste to leave these guys on the sprue. Under what circumstances are they useful? I would love to give them a go....then what do i drop? At the moment I have planned to take Ulix, Old Major, Merris, Old Cranky, The Sow and a slop hauler. feels a bit thin on the ground but i guess Piglets will be coming in as fast as I can at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositronMike Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I like to use them when playing non-summoning Ulix. This is usually when things like reckoning come up. The boars can be good flankers and using them as missile from hunting bow can work. I have found it is good to included McTavish as he can benefit from the boars tying up models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 They're definitely a bit of a weird middle ground between Piglets and War Pigs and it's often hard to know which you want. I like a single Wild Boar occasionally vs factions that might deploy snipers, especially vs Guild or Outcasts who have From The Shadows snipers. If you can win deployment, you make them go first, if they put a sniper more than 6" from their deployment zone, that model gets a wild boar sitting right on its face. Their damage track is pretty great too - I had a game with one as almost MVP the other day where it engaged Santiago and Abuela from the start and managed amazing flips, getting moderate damage all over the place, and hitting the free charge trigger a few times too. The other use I've seen that's pretty effective is with Ulix's Hunting Bow. Wild Boars have the same damage track as a War Pig, War Pigs just make up for it with more triggers and charge as a (1), and Ml6 instead of Ml5. If the Wild Boar gets the charge for free, the AP cost doesn't matter, and they get s to out of activation attacks. I've not done it myself, but I've heard from people who faced one of the other local Gremlin players using this strategy and they were very much not fans. The other minor useful things about Wild Boars are their to out of activation attacks applies to disengaging strikes, and they're a bit more reliable due to not having Grab On or Bowled Over triggers, so you're probably not going to end your activation at an inopportune time and you'll be wherever you put yourself, and not accidentally push 4" upfield. Of course, sometimes you want to do those triggers, but sometimes they're more trouble than they're worth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anung Un Rama Posted August 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Great posts. Thank you very much. I shall assemble them and have them available depending on the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcard626 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I used all 3 the other day with my ulix crew and activating them near old major for the + to attack and damage flips prooved lethal i would suggest dropping the sow and summon piglets to bolster and out activate your opponent instead was one of my best games ever as i even managed to summon the warpig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacks85 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I've tried them few times, didn't like them. Also with the bow, yeah...they're cute but why don't shoot on a Sow or Warpig instead? I personally find them 1SS overpriced, they would have been fine for 5, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I would tend to agree they are overpriced as written. You pay a premium for their options, which tend to be at odds with one another. My biggest advice for using them would be to either focus on exploiting From the Shadows or trying to exploit their out activation bonus. These are two very different play styles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazlord_Prime Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 ^^ this Had a little 35ss game on Vassal the other day, against @Alessandro, and used 2 Wild Boars along with McTavish. I got all muddled in my thinking and initially tried to put the Boars upfield enough for McT to get his "My Loyal Scouts" bonus, but then chickened out and pulled them back to the mid-way line. During the game, McT got to use them twice for his bonus, but in and of themselves they just got shot up and never even managed an attack of their own (I was concentrating on using things to get VP from Cursed Object, etc). I really missed the (1) Pig Charge action that Piglets & War Pigs have, and I pussied out on deploying them right up in the face of Von Schill and his killers (we had Corner Deployment), so I think I faked myself out with them. I would imagine that @Omenbringer has it right there - use them for one or the other method, and don't get hung up on trying to mix it all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I would tend to agree they are overpriced as written. You pay a premium for their options, which tend to be at odds with one another. My biggest advice for using them would be to either focus on exploiting From the Shadows or trying to exploit their out activation bonus. These are two very different play styles. Came here to say how great they are with Zoraida... and in that case, with gators and waldgeist from the shadows, those play styles are one and the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Zoraida is the one Master who might be able to exploit all their options since she can have both amazing range (with her Raven Form upgrade) and Obey. Add in the new Pork Whisperin upgrade and the Wild Boars are even fairly controllable for her, or at least one of the other Swampfiends that are deployed From the Shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinroz Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I had some great success using 2 of them in a game the other day. The trick was corner deployment and convict labor. These guys get to start on opposite corners tan get down scheme markers quick. Then they each have enough power to keep the markers there and clear out enemy scheme runners. I dunno, still not amazing, but worth putting on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnicide Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I'm thinking of using them to convert swinecursed. Does that count! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four_N_Six Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Somnicide said: I'm thinking of using them to convert swinecursed. Does that count! That was my plan. Give them a bit of green around the face and feet, maybe. Or just dry brush the green onto the whole damn thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 You could also add arms to the sides (Or lift them to walk upright...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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