Justin Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Discuss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tox77 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadKing Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Any help for us non Americans without the book? Oh and someone, anyone tell me about the new death Marshall looking dudes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Justin creates these threads so that those who have the book can discuss the information in a collected place. These are common types of things from when the Open Betas were being run for any particular topic. Its a good way to keep those who don't want spoiling away from the information, and a good way for Justin and Wyrd to gage community interest, opinions, thoughtful analysis, and knee-jerk reactions in one place. If you don't have the book and don't want spoilers then you'd want to avoid these threads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Would be a lot more effective if we had the required information though. With that said GenCon's been open for a bit now, where are all the spoilers and pictures (even Wyrd's facebook and twitter pages are silent which is odd) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tox77 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I bought a book , but to me it is still a month to go , thought comrades to share information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagisman Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yes I've not got the book yet as well... I've added to the conversation! What are the generic upgrades for? If I remember Nythera a couple models were going to get 0ss upgrades. Or am I living a pipe dream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomjoad Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hagisman said: What are the generic upgrades for? If I remember Nythera a couple models were going to get 0ss upgrades. Or am I living a pipe dream? Not 0ss upgrades, necessarily, I think. Nythera did promise us some upgrades meant to buff some of the less-used models in each faction. Executioners for Guild, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Pretty excited about that Dashel Upgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapdancer Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vilicate said: Pretty excited about that Dashel Upgrade. Really ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yep. I really like Dashel. Did the original post about it get deleted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizuriel Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I for one am very excited by the upgrades. I can't believe that [blank] was given [blank] letting is finally [blank] 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebreaker Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 great... I will wait my book for an month while it get to the Ukraine(((( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, wizuriel said: I for one am very excited by the upgrades. I can't believe that [blank] was given [blank] letting is finally [blank] That [blank] is so broken with [blank] I can't beleive that got thru play testing, there is a reason after all [blank] hasn't had access to [blank]!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Omenbringer said: That [blank] is so broken with [blank] I can't believe that got thru play testing, there is a reason after all [blank] hasn't had access to [blank]!!! Admit it, you're looking forward to licking all the tears off of [blank] faces. I know I am. ...dammit, these are not tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Talked about them on the new Malifools. It's up now. http://mf2e.com/archive/mf2e_3.mp3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 <DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST, YOU DON`T WANT SPOILER TRIKK>! Clicks... Dashel: Summoning vs Walk with Ca6 is a nice idea unless you`re playing Heahhunter/Hunting Party as it might be free points. But it not only helps Dashel as you can get cheap activations quite easily (its usually +1 vs average Wk of 5 and all you need to do is tie) but also might help Guild Guards as you can hire one and get one from the Summon. A Debt to the Guild: Sounds awesome. Guild really lacks card draws currently (Scales of Justice being one of the few) and this is nice. Also since it works on all Attack Actions things like Ryle with extra ram, flurry, rapid fire can really put up the pain and some models might get to Min damage 5 easily. @Justin that was actually my question . Spoil some more! I need my book :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryin Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's so nice to have a good upgrade finally ; ; It's also nice that Guild Guards (and Dashel) might see some use finally too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Did he say if there was a TN on Dashel's summon attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 I relistened to it and it seems like its "Casting 6, resist walk, range 6". No mentions on TN. He also gets 2 triggers to his gun. That probably means crit strike and... something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagisman Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Nellie's upgrades make me wish masters could take 4. They are all really competitive in my opinion. Guild Funds(Nellie) This is probably the upgrade that would be on Nellie's card if there was room. Gives a defensive trigger to her to gain Evidence, adds more evidence tricks, and gives her the ability to claim model deaths from conditions. Since she has a built in tome for Df this seems like a no brainier to auto include. Embedded(Nellie) This will be an upgrade I will never leave home without. It allows you to hire non-Ressers or Neverborn Mercs at their regular cost. And increases the limit from two Mercs to four. I've got a plan with Hans and Envy that I want to try? Misleading Headlines(Nellie) This is where Nellie can skip activations in her crew really powerful with reporters and the Crossroad 7. It also gives the ability to give out Mood Swings which was only Neverborn before. This is probably going to be an auto take. Delegation(Nellie) Gives out fast and if you lower evidence target can drop a scheme marker or heal. This'll be powerful... So powerful. It gives a better support ability that can help for example give Dr Grimwell focus on his Lobatomy attack. Transparency (Journalist, Rare1) Had to read this twice as it gives a Tomes trigger to all Journalists attacks within the model's aura to drop a scheme marker next to target. This includes Nellie. I feel like this will be more powerful than I think. It probably will make leave your mark and detonate charges a lot easier for Nellie's crew especially if they get late turn activation Wrath of the Guild(Phiona Gage) Gives bonuses when attacking activated models. Combines well with Nellie using her Evidence to skip activations. Phiona is a power house in my opinion. Arrest Him(Dashel) It gives Dashel some triggers on his ranged attack whih I applaud and a 1 action to summon Guild Guard. He can only summon once per turn, but it's good to have more reliable summoning in Guild. Maybe this could be combined with a Sonnia summon list, but Stalkers and Guard are weak nuisance models. Ready to Work(Executioner) Gives a better walk to the Executioner and a powerful 1 per game 1action charge. It will be an auto include as its more of a patch to the executioner. It also means that the executioner might be able to charge two models a turn if he kills the first charge target. Curfew(Rare 1) Gives slow to unactivated models on your opponent's side when you are done activating. This seems like an anti-gremlin spam upgrade, as well as just anti-summoning. It won't be taken often by me, but it'll be good to slow down those lists that out activate you Numb to the World(non-master rare 1) The main draw is it stops conditions being given to the model. Exactly like Jack Daw and it's a cheap upgrade so that's not nothing A Debt to Guild(non-master rare 3) this adds to Guild's card drawing. It's very limited in that it can only be used once per game but it has a way to recover its ss cost when the model dies. I won't take it often but I could see putting it on Dashel in a Lucius crew. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagisman Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Bengt said: Did he say if there was a TN on Dashel's summon attack? No target number but it is limited to once a turn. 2 hours ago, trikk said: I relistened to it and it seems like its "Casting 6, resist walk, range 6". No mentions on TN. He also gets 2 triggers to his gun. That probably means crit strike and... something else Yah it's Crit strike and a force push target if you discard a friend scheme marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bear Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wow, really like those upgrades, especially Dashel's and the Curfew for more elite lists. I hope we get an alt Dashel or some alt Guild Guards at some point though (even if I wanted to like Lucius...those Guild Guard models aren't the best). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Calling @Hagisman! Curfew is something except Rare 1? Non master? Seems great vs Alpha strikes. Allows you to run 6-7 model crews. Works on all models? Numb to the World() Non-master? Rare 1? A Debt to Guild() This allows Francisco 3 min damage 4 atacks. Ryle with upgrade can also be very good, like Sidir and even Abuela with 3 damage flips. I`ll probably have 2 of those. Seem very powerful, and if Nellie gives Fast, a Fast Bishop with this can be hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagisman Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 hour ago, trikk said: Calling @Hagisman! Curfew is something except Rare 1? Non master? Seems great vs Alpha strikes. Allows you to run 6-7 model crews. Works on all models? Numb to the World() Non-master? Rare 1? A Debt to Guild() This allows Francisco 3 min damage 4 atacks. Ryle with upgrade can also be very good, like Sidir and even Abuela with 3 damage flips. I`ll probably have 2 of those. Seem very powerful, and if Nellie gives Fast, a Fast Bishop with this can be hilarious Curfew is just rare one. The rest I'll update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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