Design Dragon Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Would be good to know what I'm handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain they would have to note that on the packaging... most pewter in the US doesn't have lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 After doing a bit of google research, can definitively say its tin alloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Victoria said: After doing a bit of google research, can definitively say its tin alloy. You mean alloyed with lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I mean alloyed with copper and um... antimony, bismuth, copper sometimes other stuff... I don't know the recipe... but non lead based. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 25 minutes ago, Nathan Caroland said: No. Always with these equivocating answers... It's good to hear though, I've just ordered some of the old Twisted models and hadn't thought about what they might be made out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 As far as I know, lead hasnt been used in miniatures since the mid 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Nathan Caroland said: No. Well, they don't advertise them as lead-free right? Now that I've looked into this more, I assume they could have as much as 9%, right? Would painting and priming make them safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Nathan is one of the owners of Wyrd, so he's not speculating there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 8 hours ago, Munindk said: As far as I know, lead hasnt been used in miniatures since the mid 90's. There are still companies which produce miniatures with "lead pewter" alloys. I just checked the box of a model I got earlier this year (from a different company who I'm not going to name), the box label said "This set contains two miniatures and are supplied unpainted. It contains 3-4% lead." Those models go nicely with the rest of my "Please wash your hands first. You don't want to touch my stuff while you're eating" models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, solkan said: There are still companies which produce miniatures with "lead pewter" alloys. I just checked the box of a model I got earlier this year (from a different company who I'm not going to name), the box label said "This set contains two miniatures and are supplied unpainted. It contains 3-4% lead." Those models go nicely with the rest of my "Please wash your hands first. You don't want to touch my stuff while you're eating" models. Ha ha! Over paranoid here, but do you need to clean off your gaming area after using your minis on it since they contain lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, The MechE said: Well, they don't advertise them as lead-free right? Now that I've looked into this more, I assume they could have as much as 9%, right? Would painting and priming make them safe? It is a white metal alloy - lead free. You're likely to get more jacked up not wearing a mask priming and having a bad habit of brush licking than handling the miniatures. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Nathan Caroland said: It is a white metal alloy - lead free. You're likely to get more jacked up not wearing a mask priming and having a bad habit of brush licking than handling the miniatures. Okay, thanks for taking the time to clarify. I know some white metal alloys contain some lead, so I was curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, The MechE said: Ha ha! Over paranoid here, but do you need to clean off your gaming area after using your minis on it since they contain lead? It's more important to clean up the place where you're putting the models together. But that's going to be the case for resin and a whole bunch of other materials, too. Solvents, glues, green stuff, resin... "Play it painted (and sealed)" should be a safety campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, solkan said: It's more important to clean up the place where you're putting the models together. But that's going to be the case for resin and a whole bunch of other materials, too. Solvents, glues, green stuff, resin... "Play it painted (and sealed)" should be a safety campaign. So let's say I had non-Wyrd miniatures and they contained lead? Could I get away with just sealing them or do I need the prime and paint steps first? I'm new to this stuff, so I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, The MechE said: So let's say I had non-Wyrd miniatures and they contained lead? Could I get away with just sealing them or do I need the prime and paint steps first. I'm new to this stuff, so I'm curious. I'm just going to say that I'm not worried about the lead in my 80's lead pewter models leaching through the sealant on them while I'm gaming. I think most of the hazards for objects containing lead is from contact-based erosion and ingestion--you touch the thing, you rub some of it off onto your hand, and then what's on your hand gets on your food and you eat it. If you're not rubbing off the paint, you're probably not rubbing off the metal. If you were using a lead-pewter spoon or dishes, you'd be getting into some other chemistry involving leaching of metals into the food. Edit: To be thorough: Quote Lead enters the body primarily through inhalation and ingestion. Today, adults are mainly exposed to lead by breathing in lead-containing dust and fumes at work, or from hobbies that involve lead. Lead passes through the lungs into the blood where it can harm many of the body's organ systems. While inorganic lead does not readily enter the body through the skin, it can enter the body through accidental ingestion (eating, drinking, and smoking) via contaminated hands, clothing, and surfaces. from https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/lead/ In other words, the bigger concern would be lead dust (dust from filing, drilling or sanding lead figures) from the hobby stuff. Sort of like how resin dust (the dust from filing, drilling or sanding resin) is the scary part of working with resin. Edited May 10, 2016 by solkan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Design Dragon Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 8 hours ago, solkan said: I'm just going to say that I'm not worried about the lead in my 80's lead pewter models leaching through the sealant on them while I'm gaming. I think most of the hazards for objects containing lead is from contact-based erosion and ingestion--you touch the thing, you rub some of it off onto your hand, and then what's on your hand gets on your food and you eat it. If you're not rubbing off the paint, you're probably not rubbing off the metal. If you were using a lead-pewter spoon or dishes, you'd be getting into some other chemistry involving leaching of metals into the food. Edit: To be thorough: from https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/lead/ In other words, the bigger concern would be lead dust (dust from filing, drilling or sanding lead figures) from the hobby stuff. Sort of like how resin dust (the dust from filing, drilling or sanding resin) is the scary part of working with resin. Okay, but just so I know how primer/vanish or sealer work, could you just apply a sealer to metal models, or would you need to prime and/or paint them first or the sealer wouldn't stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 25 minutes ago, The MechE said: Okay, but just so I know how primer/vanish or sealer work, could you just apply a sealer to metal models, or would you need to prime and/or paint them first or the sealer wouldn't stick? Yeah, you would definitely need to prime them first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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