Mysty the Emissary that doesn't quite fit

[Mxbedlam]

So I'm sure a lot of why the Emissary's don't see play is simply lack of a model and having to print out the cards, that being said I don't see a lot of space for our own Mysty in most Neverborn crews. I did use her with some success in a Lynch crew this evening, but that 10 points would have been just as well served on Graves with Fears Given Form or Candy. The interesting merits of the Mysty are 1) Summoning, albeit a weak model with tiny wounds, 2) Hazardous Terrain, 3) Scheme, Corpse, Scrap removal, 4) Possibly giving out Fast on turn 4+

Master wise, I think Zoriada benefits the most from its special upgrade, and even that is good but still not a must have for the Z crew.

Anyone used the Mysty to good use? Did you feel it improved your game or was just a decent choice among lots of other choices? What reason did you take it over other Enforcers?

[tomjoad]

I'm really excited to try the Emissary out with Pandora. The "gain any ability" ability looks crazy good. I'm thinking Emissary plus Aionus. The Emissary can have 3ap every turn, and Aionus can move the Hungry Land markers wherever they might need to be. 

[Math Mathonwy]

2 hours ago, tomjoad said:

I'm really excited to try the Emissary out with Pandora. The "gain any ability" ability looks crazy good. I'm thinking Emissary plus Aionus. The Emissary can have 3ap every turn, and Aionus can move the Hungry Land markers wherever they might need to be. 

Making Emissary Fast using Aionus is sorta resource-intensive, though.

I haven't tested the Emissary but on paper I like it a lot. The Hazardous Terrain is something that should make the enemy sweat nicely.

[Molja]

23 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said:

Making Emissary Fast using Aionus is sorta resource-intensive, though.

 

I think S/He meant copying Aionus "Stolen time" ability. Much better use of abilitycopy than "a stitch in time".

[Math Mathonwy]

1 minute ago, Molja said:

I think S/He meant copying Aionus "Stolen time" ability. Much better use of abilitycopy than "a stitch in time".

Ah, I didn't somehow think of that even though it was rather spelled out ("gain any ability") - me am dumb.

[Myyrä]

7 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said:

Ah, I didn't somehow think of that even though it was rather spelled out ("gain any ability") - me am dumb.

Not that dumb, because the Emissary can only copy abilities from Neverborn models.

[Nical]

When I tested it in wave 2 (with Collodi & Lucius), I think Mysty is useful but it is not a self-sufficient model.

So I think it needs some synergies to work. If your crew can make it work, it will be very good model.

 

 

[tomjoad]

6 hours ago, Myyrä said:

Not that dumb, because the Emissary can only copy abilities from Neverborn models.

Oh noooo. I wonder if I would have caught this before trying it out a few times?

I'm still excited to try out Mysty with the Conflux of Sorrow, but this does change things a lot...

[Myyrä]

1 hour ago, tomjoad said:

Oh noooo. I wonder if I would have caught this before trying it out a few times?

I'm still excited to try out Mysty with the Conflux of Sorrow, but this does change things a lot...

It can still copy Casting Expert, Incorporeal or one of the nasty Auras from Candy/Pandora/Sorrows.

[Shadowfane]

Seriously, Collodi and Pandora are totally the Masters I want to try the Emissary with.

Collodis upgrade works regardless of which limited upgrade he takes, and gives lots of options for gaining Fast on the Emissary (plus now he's a Puppet!)

Pandoras upgrade is bonkers - the ability to copy any ability from a Neverborn model is crazy.  As well as the ones Myyra uses as examples, there's Regen+2 from Teddy, Terrifying (All) 13, Manipulative from the Doppelganger, Don't Mind Me..... the more I think about it, the more bonkers that ability is!

[PeregrineFalcon]

Mysterious is very strong if you spend time learning its strengths and weakness as it can do a lot. Two best IMO are Collodi and Pandora.

[Mxbedlam]

Thanks for the responses. Has anyone actually used the Mysty yet?

[Fetid Strumpet]

Just as a note, The emissary can't copy abilities from a NB Master.

The Arcane Reservoir podcast covered their opinions on the emissary if you want to take a listen. In general their opinion was don't bother with him unless you are playing Pandora or Collodi.

[PeregrineFalcon]

7 minutes ago, Fetid Strumpet said:

Just as a note, The emissary can't copy abilities from a NB Master.

The Arcane Reservoir podcast covered their opinions on the emissary if you want to take a listen. In general their opinion was don't bother with him unless you are playing Pandora or Collodi.

They did have a lot of great things to say, a few things I disagreed with, mostly because of my success with the Emissary. @rancor709 and I did an episode talking about our specific experiences with the Emissaries we had used.

http://cheatedfatesradio.podbean.com/e/cheated-fates-radio-and-a-conflux-of-emissaries/

[Mxbedlam]

Is there a text version? Podcasts just don't work for me. For some reason I have no attention span for auditory only stimulus

[Math Mathonwy]

14 hours ago, Shadowfane said:

Seriously, Collodi and Pandora are totally the Masters I want to try the Emissary with.

Collodis upgrade works regardless of which limited upgrade he takes, and gives lots of options for gaining Fast on the Emissary (plus now he's a Puppet!)

Pandoras upgrade is bonkers - the ability to copy any ability from a Neverborn model is crazy.  As well as the ones Myyra uses as examples, there's Regen+2 from Teddy, Terrifying (All) 13, Manipulative from the Doppelganger, Don't Mind Me..... the more I think about it, the more bonkers that ability is!

Copying Manipulative isn't very useful

But yeah, there's a lot of amazing things on offer for sure.

[Shadowfane]

10 hours ago, Math Mathonwy said:

Copying Manipulative isn't very useful

But yeah, there's a lot of amazing things on offer for sure.

Well yes, I went a little overboard there, I feel

[cursingbulldog]

I like running a heavy hazardous terrain based crew using lilith, the Emmisary, Cherub, and Ama No Zako. My Experience is that folks get overly scared of the terrain and it gives a huge amount of board control.

[HtUnliving]

Tested the Emissary with Lilith in a list I dubbed Minefield,with these two,Transfixing Gaze,Beckon Malifaux,Waldgeists,Weaver Widow and Cherub and Tuco.

The idea was simply to tell your opponent "don't go there,or there,or anywhere". And with area denial and the right Schemes and Strats (either Reckoning or Reckon,Deliver a Message at least,maybe Protect Territory in that match) you control the board or atleast force your opponent to bleed for every inch. In that match the Emissary worked well and I have a good feeling for it. Especially when it has many good tools for many situations I think. Gonna try him with Lynch for a third beatstick/control piece.