pariah of iron options?

[shahryar]

The wiki only listed a few, I was curious if any of the hoffman constructs work well with Leveticus?

[Freman]

Not having played Leveticus yet, I'm theory-fauxing here but it seems that Hoffman bots would work. Hunters would be decently fast units with ranged attacks, and still being anchors. Watchers are mobile so would be used for scheme running. Guardians are tanky. Peacekeepers are brutal, and I've seen Ryle described as like Lazarus, when you need a model that can also use soulstones and be a killy henchman.

They tend to just be overlooked when compared to Howard and Joss because Arcanist bots tend to be more killy.

[shahryar]

Yea it is weird I like hoffman and his constructs but I really only like two guild masters him and lucius so looking for ways to use the hoffman bots in other things.

[paxmiles]

That Wiki really needs an update for levi.

I've gotten some good use this this guy: http://geeksong.com/Malifaux/ I set the filters for constructs that are not masters, gremlins or totems. 

But yeah, long list of Constructs that Levi can take.

[shahryar]

Rather not start another new post so i will ask it here my friend might be buying some minis from me so i will have some money come Jan.  I plan to get zoraida and Levi. Levi doesn't look like he would do great out of the box so i am thinking of being a third crew box just not sure what to get. 

Vik or von schill and just have alyce summon abominations for their crew while i build up a levi crew

Or getting hoffman, molly, seamus or something like that and jump right into making a levi crew. 

[Freman]

Add Ashes and Dust and Leveticus is good to go. A Desolation Engine is good to have in case you actually get all four Abominations out and want to unite them into their ultimate form.

[4554551//]

I've got a wide range of options for levi, but 90% of my games are his box along with ashes and dust, hodgepodge effigy,  and lazarus

[Dirial]

On 26.12.2015 at 6:00 AM, paxmiles said:

That Wiki really needs an update for levi.

Looking forward to what you come up with.

[LulleK]

On ‎2015‎-‎12‎-‎28 at 10:54 AM, 4554551// said:

I've got a wide range of options for levi, but 90% of my games are his box along with ashes and dust, hodgepodge effigy,  and lazarus

When and why do you hire differently than that list, and what do you hire?

[Tris]

I´m also curious about alternatives for Lazarus and Ashes, as I´m trying to find something just now.

Against McMourning for example it seems to be no good idea to hire Lazarus or Ashes, as both tend to die rather quickly or at least they can`t be used to their full potential.

 

Greetings

[Freman]

Soulstone Miners with their ability to start the game buried and turn up where you need them can make good scheme runners.

Ryle makes a good substitute for Lazarus as a ranged beater. Howard and Joss are, of course, great melee beaters.

[4554551//]

On 30/12/2015 at 10:32 PM, LulleK said:

When and why do you hire differently than that list, and what do you hire?

In very scheme heavy pools. Things like the performer, mechanical rider etc. 

If I'm worried about specific crews. I'll sometimes take taelor if I expect summoning or bishop to get through defences. Swift is also useful for schemes. 

Depending on terrain and schemes sometimes it's nice to have either hans or a trapper.

SS miners can have their advantages. Howard and joss are good melee options, especially Howard, but for their cost I'd rather take A&D and unless it's turf war or you're wanting something specific like bishop or taelor, 1 melee beater tends to be enough. 

Also teddy is a fine option. I don't think I've ever taken mine with levi, not cos he's bad, but cos other beaters tend to do more than just beat face. Like Howard's soft cover, tailors charge, bishops and Joses anti Def tech etc. But he's very strong. I'll make a point of taking him for the next few terf wars for proper testing. 

[LulleK]

9 hours ago, 4554551// said:

In very scheme heavy pools. Things like the performer, mechanical rider etc. 

If I'm worried about specific crews. I'll sometimes take taelor if I expect summoning or bishop to get through defences. Swift is also useful for schemes. 

Depending on terrain and schemes sometimes it's nice to have either hans or a trapper.

SS miners can have their advantages. Howard and joss are good melee options, especially Howard, but for their cost I'd rather take A&D and unless it's turf war or you're wanting something specific like bishop or taelor, 1 melee beater tends to be enough. 

Also teddy is a fine option. I don't think I've ever taken mine with levi, not cos he's bad, but cos other beaters tend to do more than just beat face. Like Howard's soft cover, tailors charge, bishops and Joses anti Def tech etc. But he's very strong. I'll make a point of taking him for the next few terf wars for proper testing. 

Cool, thanks! What do you usually give up? Lazarus?

[4554551//]

I give up rusty before lazarus. Blasts are valuable. Plus she needs upgrades to shine, so at 12-14 stones I'll often drop her. 

[daniello_s]

50 minutes ago, 4554551// said:

I give up rusty before lazarus. Blasts are valuable. Plus she needs upgrades to shine, so at 12-14 stones I'll often drop her. 

Not true. She is great even without the Desolate Soul upgrade and what is more important she is far more dangerous in close combat and she is way more mobile than Lazarus.

In matter of fact they both work well together in Levi's crew.

[4554551//]

True, but if I'm dropping something for specific things her mobility becomes less relevant. 

I like laz for the armor and healing. Plus blasts. 

[jonahmaul]

Taelor is always worth taking, whether against a summoner or not!  She's such a great beatstick.

[KrazyIvan]

Commonly seen PoI models in my Levi crew:

• Howard Langston: Arguably the single most deadly construct available to Levi in melee. He is great for combat heavy schemes and strats like Turf War.
• Joss: Great melee beatstick. Gives Levi the ability to easily summon a Turn 1 Desolation Engine. I like him for Reconnoiter because he drops scrap all over, allowing Rusty or Levi another opportunity to summon Abominations. The Abominations are scoring models.
• Mechanical Rider: I'll often use Mech Rider instead of Ashes & Dust. The ability to summon scoring models is great for all kinds or strats and schemes. Power Ritual, Line in the Sand, Plant Evidence, etc. Also good for getting scoring models in place for Reconnoiter. I also like summoning Metal Gamin on claim markers in Squatters Rights. Even post cuddle Metal Gamin are great speed bumps.
• Soulstone Miner: One of my favorites for Power Ritual and Outflank. Pretty much guaranteed to get it in scoring position. If you can pull it early then free soulstones.
• The Valedictorian: Another model I will sub for Ashes & Dust, usually when facing factions with generally low Willpower like Gremlins. Nearly mobile as A&D, plus Terrifying, plus I think that she is a bit better as a beater than A&D (opinions may vary on that). Normally would use her when I have a mix of killy and marker based schemes.
• The other Iron Zombies: Sometimes will take them depending on the opposing faction. Arcanists? Take Student of Steel to ignore armor. Etc.
• Necropunks: I like Necropunks when I want a higher model count rather than big, tanky scheme runners. When I throw down punks I'll generally take a bunch of lower cost models (6-7 points each) so that I have lots of anchors. Levi will pop all over the board killing as necessary, 6-7 pointers will deal with close in scheme markers, Necropunks will run out for far out markers. Plant Evidence, Power Ritual, maybe Outflank, Reconnoiter, etc.

I have not really played around with Hoffman's constructs at this point. That said Guardians look to be decent anchors, hunters decent secondary beaters, and watchers great for Levi and Rusty shooting things. Hope that helps!

[jonahmaul]

5 hours ago, KrazyIvan said:

Commonly seen PoI models in my Levi crew:

• The Valedictorian: Another model I will sub for Ashes & Dust, usually when facing factions with generally low Willpower like Gremlins. Nearly mobile as A&D, plus Terrifying, plus I think that she is a bit better as a beater than A&D (opinions may vary on that). Normally would use her when I have a mix of killy and marker based schemes.

A&D is Ml7 with a 3/4/6 damage track and 3AP.  Valedictorian really needs to be focusing or burning SS for (+) damage twist to hit her damage.  I love the Valedictorian in general and often use her as a glorified scheme runner (protecting Necropunks more often than not) but I think in terms of a Beater A&D is better.  She is arguably more survivable though despite A&D re-birth shenanigans.

[Freman]

Teddy

Stiched Together

Just for funsies.