santaclaws01 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 What are the best models in the game for Flay(from Obsidion Talons) that could be hired by Lilith in a campaign. Bad Juju and turn 2-3 Hooded Rider are the only ones that stand out(I don't have the books with me). Any Henchman or mercs w/ a built in mask that would benefit from Flay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Top Hat Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Flay only effects Nephilim and if I remember correctly can only be taken by them as well.Barbaros - he makes an ok holder for this upgrade as he only has 1 personal upgrade. He does have other options as well.Nekima - if you take her she doesn't need the flay but others benefit from it. She has better options though.Angel Eyes - she's less likely to be in the middle of combat then other models which means she's less likely to be taken out (and there by loosing the upgrade for the game)Lelu & Lilitu - both good for this upgrade and they don't have many other competing upgrade choices in a Lilith crew.Mr Graves - depends how you play him but in my experience he often goes down about halfway through. Personally I wouldn't put this on him.Tuco - Tuco isn't going to be in the thick of things with any luck and as Obsidian Talons has no range limit he's a good option to keep the upgrade in effect through out the game. Depending on crew make up and schemes/strats the holder of Obsidian Talons could be the focus of quite a bit of fire (in a kill heavy pool against rezzers for example being able to cheat through damage flips. Edited December 18, 2015 by Clockwork Top Hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Flay only effects Nephilim and if I remember correctly can only be taken by them as well.Barbaros - he makes an ok holder for this upgrade as he only has 1 personal upgrade. He does have other options as well.Nekima - if you take her she doesn't need the flay but others benefit from it. She has better options though.Angel Eyes - she's less likely to be in the middle of combat then other models which means she's less likely to be taken out (and there by loosing the upgrade for the game)Lelu & Lilitu - both good for this upgrade and they don't have many other competing upgrade choices in a Lilith crew.Mr Graves - depends how you play him but in my experience he often goes down about halfway through. Personally I wouldn't put this on him.Tuco - Tuco isn't going to be in the thick of things with any luck and as Obsidian Talons has no range limit he's a good option to keep the upgrade in effect through out the game. Depending on crew make up and schemes/strats the holder of Obsidian Talons could be the focus of quite a bit of fire (in a kill heavy pool against rezzers for example being able to cheat through damage flips.Avatar Lilith makes all models in your crew gain the Nephilim Characteristic and have the Black Blood Ability. Edited December 18, 2015 by santaclaws01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Top Hat Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ah in that case my mistake.Off the tip of my head Coppelius has a in his attack but not sure how great flay is with him and Bishop can gain from adaptive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ah in that case my mistake.Off the tip of my head Coppelius has a in his attack but not sure how great flay is with him and Bishop can gain from adaptive.Probably be competing with his other triggers too much, especially considering is automatic moderate damage and a Horror Duel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ^^ It still gives him another trigger when you don't have the crows or rams. Also, he might be a nice target for Black Blood Pustule considering his speed, large wound count and healing ability. I'm a big Coppelius fan, in case you hadn't noticed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ^^ It still gives him another trigger when you don't have the crows or rams. Also, he might be a nice target for Black Blood Pustule considering his speed, large wound count and healing ability. I'm a big Coppelius fan, in case you hadn't noticed. Oh definitely, he's one of my favorites as well, that's why he started in my arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Top Hat Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Hooded rider also gets masks but Flay is probably not as good as his other triggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Ronin or Juju would probably benefit a lot from it because of their steep damage tracks. Ronin get to ignore armour and have the mask built in which is nice. Juju of course has a ridiculous damage track which is also nice. Edited December 20, 2015 by Ludvig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Ronin would be great with the combination of twist the blade and flay making cheating damage pretty easy. Merc tax might be a nuisance but I'd say they can play well to Lilith's hit and run style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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