rhysmcdo Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I've played a bunch of games with Pandora and a couple of questions come up on occasion:1) Disengaging strikes- if she takes a disengaging strike and wins the duel, does she push before or after the walk action?2) Self loathing- do "printed damage results" include all non-trigger effects, or just the listed damage track?3) Can the Obscene Knowledge condition be applied to models that are immune to conditions, i.e. Lenny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_acolyte Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 1) Disengaging strikes- if she takes a disengaging strike and wins the duel, does she push before or after the walk action?After the walk action.2) Self loathing- do "printed damage results" include all non-trigger effects, or just the listed damage track?As I understand it is only the damage. 3) Can the Obscene Knowledge condition be applied to models that are immune to conditions, i.e. Lenny?Immune to conditions means that the Obscene Knowledge condition would not be gained. So no luck vs Lenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnternalVoid Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 1) Disengaging strikes- if she takes a disengaging strike and wins the duel, does she push before or after the walk action?After the walk action. And welcome to why people often do not take Disengaging strikes against Pandora unless they feel a good change of winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 If pandora herself tries to keep someone in engagement she will not be able to push since she will be doing a Ca duel. Just checking that this is clear since it's the most commonly misunderstood rule in the nvb faction and the model "taking" the disengagibg strike would be the one making the attack in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulky Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I've played a bunch of games with Pandora and a couple of questions come up on occasion:1) Disengaging strikes- if she takes a disengaging strike and wins the duel, does she push before or after the walk action?2) Self loathing- do "printed damage results" include all non-trigger effects, or just the listed damage track?3) Can the Obscene Knowledge condition be applied to models that are immune to conditions, i.e. Lenny?1) After the action (Walk) is completed, but I don't really every walk with Pandora after turn 1, I move strictly with Incite and charges.2) Only the damage track, but note that any blasts (Criid, Rasputina, Lazarus) are included in the damage track itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnternalVoid Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 1) After the action (Walk) is completed, but I don't really every walk with Pandora after turn 1, I move strictly with Incite and charges. Wait till you face a lot of anti charges auras, Anti-push bubbles, or a good helping of the Braced Condition. I hardly walked with Pandora either till that sort of thing started cropping up because of it. Walking... one of the most painful uses of AP sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I remember a friend of mine getting so wrapped up in Pandora's various Wp related shenanigans that he spent a ridiculous amount of time agonizing over whether he had the cards to complete entourage on the last turn until I pointed out that he could do it just by walking. It's possibly the game's most OP tactical action. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I remember a friend of mine getting so wrapped up in Pandora's various Wp related shenanigans that he spent a ridiculous amount of time agonizing over whether he had the cards to complete entourage on the last turn until I pointed out that he could do it just by walking. It's possibly the game's most OP tactical action. Okay, that amused the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 And another question regarding Pandora, if you don`t mind me hijacking this thread - concerning her upgrade "Fears given Form" - does her own crew also have to take the def duels? Kind regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes. Also, you can take Fears Given Form on any henchman or master, which can be quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Fears Given Form on Candy is perhaps my favorite model/upgrade combo. It turns her into such a terrifying control model. Unless they can remove her in a single turn (hard to do when she can burn stones) Candy will cause some havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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