RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'd like to get some advice about two masters that have the following characteristics: 1st: Cover the Strategies between them very well (for example: I read that Tara is very good at reconnoiter but struggles with Reckoning, which master would cover that weakness?) 2nd: Use the most shared models (for example: Collette has a lot of showgirls but no one else in arcanists really uses them, that would be a strike against) 3rd: Decently competetive I am looking to build a compact 2 crew travel collection that I can use to get games in wherever I find myself. I am on the road a lot so I don't want to have 70+ models in my carry on. Right now I am thinking of focusing more on a fast master that would be good for reconnoiter and schemes, while having the second be fairly elite and hitty for turf war and reckoning. I havent got enough games in to make a informed decision and would love any help or opinions you could give. In short, I want to get two masters that can cover the game's various scenarios while using the most models in common to do it what are your picks? Some pairings I have been considering: Nico/Seamus or Nico/Molly or Kirai/Molly (Good model crossover) Dreamer/Pandora or Collodi/Zoraida (some model crossover) Hoffman/Lucius (little model crossover) Levi/Tara Most of these I've never played or played against so any help would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I would take a look at Som'er and Ophelia. Their starter sets, an extra Bayou Gremlin box, Slop Hauler box, and Piglet Box will cover many bases and overlap nicely. Add a Hog Whisperer and Pigapult and there aren't many things you wont have a good chance against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalleron Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 nevermind, I should read the whole post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Leveticus and Hoffman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalleron Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Isn't Levy the answer for most problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 To clarify I am looking to purchase these crews and I'd like them to be from the same faction. My collection at the present is all guild. Id like to try something else for this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 He said he didn't want to carry 70+ models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Biggest issue with Levy is his huge hiring pool. Freman beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Double post. Is there a button to delete an unwanted post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Levi can bounce around and do those schemes that Hoffman sometimes has problems with if you are a big "hoffball" fan, and Hoff can provide a great master for "bunched up" schemes or strats. Levi can hire everything in the Hoff crew, and if you expand the hoff crew with more constructs, levi can use them as well. Basically, you can have a small core of construct models, 1 or two non construct models from each faction for flavour and the masters. 15-20 models tops and you can do damn near anything you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 But if I declare guild (so I could play Hoffman) I can't play Levi unless I declare Outcast (which prevents me from playing hoffman). Am I missing something? I like the using the same models to do diffferent strat/scheme though that is exactly what I am looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I did not realise you were considering declared faction tournaments, If that is the case, then yes, my suggestion is pointless. In that case, take McCabe and Lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Oh is that only at tournaments? I have only played at one local game store and that is how they set up the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 they made you play one faction for multiple games??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 All my games thus far are only guild. So I am looking for something new, but I never played Hoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Nothing stops you from playing different factions in different games dude!! Yes, you can't use 2 masters in one game, but that's normal for malifaux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 This is getting a bit off topic. I am aware that you can play different factions in different games but I understood that you declare your faction THEN find out the strategy which would prevent me using Levi for things Hoffman can't do well. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcosa Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Ahh, I see where you are coming from. Yes, it does. I go back to McCabe and Lynch then as 10T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteppic Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What do tournaments or even local gamers in your area generally do? You are entirely right that going the same faction is generally best for your initial premise, using standard draw random strat, draw random schemes scenario. However many tournaments have fixed strats and schemes, and some allow a different faction each round. But I am not sure if people have missed what you were originally mentioning or not. The other thing to consider is if a duel master approach is even neccessary. There are a fair few flexible masters out there who can do well across different schemes as well as the fact just because a master stays the same doesnt mean the crew has to, but this really depends on how big a part you want theme to play. I would say that you may want to potentially avoid summoners if space is a problem, for instance Nicodm probably needs the most models in the game. Molly sometime wants a a big range of models if you want the flexibility of spirit or horror Molly game to game. I would probably narrow down to 1 faction and then look through at which master brings to the table. Some faction subforums may have threads on hypothetical what would you take with stratedgy x and schemes y available. These threads could help narrow down. On actual advice maybe Lucius with Lynch as neverborn. I am afraid I havent looked into weakneses I just am aware lynch is powerful flexible and often Lynch is considered the goto box set to expand Lucius as neverborn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 So far two pairings I hadn't thought of: Somer and Ophelia Lynch+Lucius/McCabe Pteppic you bring up a good point the faction subforums threads on hypothetical stratedgy and schemes to narrow down. I have some reading to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trample Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 How about McCabe + Brewmaster 10T? They both have some interesting uses for samurai, 10T brothers, and Sidhir I think. Both could give you some dual faction fun as well with some guild hounds and Tri Chi built in for certain scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Well, you don't want Guild, so I'm out.... but the two Gremlins are pretty great. Ramos is pretty much the king of Reconnoitre without a large hiring pool and pairs well with a lot of the other Arcanists like Colette (who rocks Interact Schemes and Turf War) or Mei Feng. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMK Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Dirial if you have a 2 guild master combo share it. If nothing else for anyone else looking to pick up two masters For similar reasons. I have to look into gremlins never even seen a gremlin model in person. What models do Ramos and Colette share? Mei Feng I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Colette loves Howard and Joss. Ramos likes Cassandra (everybody does) and Performers are just so versatile. They have very decent overlap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 As an added bonus to Somer + Ophelia combo: you can just add Wong as he really doesn't have any special requirements to his crew. And everyone likes Mancha Roja and the Lightning Bugs.As for Arcanists, Colette + Ramos + Electrical Creation + Mech Rider + Metal Gamin makes for some very solid crews. Ramos takes care of Reconnoiter and such while Colette rocks Reckoning and similar. If you want more, you could add Johan and maybe even Mei Feng (though Mei Feng really doesn't do anything better than Ramos and Colette). Oh, and more Spiders if you're not fond of magnetizing them.For Neverborn Lilith + Zoraida + Waldgeists + Nephilim would work nicely and cheaply. Both Masters can use essentially all of the minis (except one another's totems ) and both can tackle basically any strategy. If you wanted, you could add Nekima into the mix as well. And maybe a Nurse for Zoraida (not required, though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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