Kirby Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 He seems like a solid hand disruption model, but at 8ss he's competing with a lot of great entries and coming super close to our henchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 The hand disruption could be well worth taking for Misaki... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Stacks nicely with Hannah (casting Pride's abilities a second time) and Yamaziko. With Misaki as the master chopping heads, that can get pretty stressful for your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Oh yeah, he's definitely making it into my Misaki crews. Good point about Hannah, I forgot about her getting another Song casting off per turn. An auto-four is pretty solid for picking on things as a (0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 (I only have the beta card, so I'm not sure if anything's changed...) Pride feels incredibly focused on forcing discards, which isn't particularly synergistic outside of Misaki's crew (though it's always handy). His sphere of influence is very small, though Montressor could boost the range of his auras which would be nice. He's like an even more specialised version of Tannen. The cost gives me pause, though. He's potentially very disruptive for a few rounds, but your opponent is going to kill him - Df 6 and Wounded Ego might make that costly, but it won't prevent it. If the opponent has models with Armor and healing, they're basically going to laugh Pride off with little effect, at which point you would have been far better served by spending the stones elsewhere. On the other hand, sometimes you'll just completely shut down a pack of enemies, or open up the enemy Master to Hans. Pride is a little too unreliable for my comfort, but has some spectacular potential (especially with Misaki, obvs). We also usually don't have a ton of uses for lowish Rams, so it's nice to have a model that's hungry for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Pride feels incredibly focused on forcing discards, which isn't particularly synergistic outside of Misaki's crew (though it's always handy). His sphere of influence is very small, though Montressor could boost the range of his auras which would be nice. He's like an even more specialised version of Tannen. Forcing discards is great in any crew that has a lot of tests against a fixed value (terrifying, manipulative, lots of pulse abilities force a test or X). Hand pressure is ALWAYS immense (though its often tough to get a handle on how much value you get out of it). Taking pride in a crew with a few December Acolytes is nice for extra discards too (can't Cassandra use the discard ability with understudy too?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Forcing discards and the possibility to give out Slow are both mint for Jack Daw. It enhances the penalties of Penance, i.e. the Curses. And Slow+a Curse, is a meaner Paralyze, most of the times. The real problem with Pride for me is keeping him alive. Nurse or Librarian might be good companions for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Forcing discards is great in any crew that has a lot of tests against a fixed value (terrifying, manipulative, lots of pulse abilities force a test or X). Hand pressure is ALWAYS immense (though its often tough to get a handle on how much value you get out of it). Taking pride in a crew with a few December Acolytes is nice for extra discards too (can't Cassandra use the discard ability with understudy too?). Oh, I'm talking specifically about Outcasts. Other factions have loads of stuff that benefits from stripping the opponent's hand, but for most Outcast crews it's just a small (but still nice!) boost. I mean, Leveticus can force tons of pulse-based tests, but I still wouldn't build a Pride-focused pulse-spam list - it would be overly fragile and prone to fall flat when Pride dies (which would be very early on). Misaki benefits hugely, and Jack to a lesser extent. The Viks will kill you whether you have cards in hand or not, as will Leveticus. Tara, Von Schill and Hamelin don't much care - the opponent having fewer cards just makes their lives easier in the same way it does for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Seamus crews. Potential for three models with death strikes, 2 or more models with terrifying, and belles to potentially assist with hand destruction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Seamus crews. Potential for three models with death strikes, 2 or more models with terrifying, and belles to potentially assist with hand destruction. Come on, man! Rezzers are already broken, don't give them more ideas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey_C Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Tara, Von Schill and Hamelin don't much care - the opponent having fewer cards just makes their lives easier in the same way it does for everyone. I would say Tara could benefit a lot. Reducing your opponents hand makes aggressive burying a legit threat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I haven't played him yet, but I think he'll work well with some Jack Daw lists in particular. Since he's fairly fragile for his cost and has a big Bullseye painted on his forehead, I think he'll be most effective in crews that can provide the opponent with target saturation and focus on disrupting enemy plans. The opponent has to ask himself: do I shoot the Strongarm Suit, try to get into melee with Lazarus to stop him blowing me up, or kill Pride so I don't have to discard my hand? Discard effects are always useful since they limit your opponent's options but I think it's easy to go overboard on them just like making a Terrifying themed list. The major reason that I think Pride will work well with Jack is that Jack tends to have a lot of Terrifying/Manipulative models as well as some threats that can take priority over Pride. Both of which will benefit Pride. Agree that blowing up the opponent's hand will make Misaki a lot stronger too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Come on daniello_s. You love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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