daniello_s Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is there any model with Lure action within Outcast family? I know we can hire Oiran for 6SS but her Lure really depends on good flips as she doesn't have one suit built in her action so either we are lucky to flip correct suit of we have to reserve correct cards in our hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 You can get a sort of a Lure in with the Performers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Leveticus with Pariah of Bone can hire Belles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 OK, I should be more specific - every Outcast crew except Leveticus Mainly I'm thinking about Viks. Performer might be an option. Her Lure has shorter range (12'' only) but she might try to Paralyze the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 It also isn't lure, as its a push and not a move. Pushes are easier to get around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarSol Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Oiran I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm just curious why the 1.5 Oiran had the suits built in, but the 2.0 version does not. Was it a typo that they just decided would be fine as is, or was it a play test change for balance reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 From my recollection of the beta, they never had the suit, so it wasn't a typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 1.5 Oiran (when they were introduced in the Storm of Shadows) had them as Ca 6 , TN 12 for their lure. That's why I was wondering if it was originally a typo once they started updating for 2.0, or if it was a purposeful balance change. Honestly though, to me, it seems like a needless Cuddle, especially as they are the only Lure model I can think of that doesn't have the suit built in. For their cost, they wouldn't exactly be breaking the mold to have it built in normally, nor be overpowered. That's a personal assessment though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Not so much as mercs, but oiran do a lot of things very well aside from Lure, particularly in light of the new upgrade which boosts them for free. Another nice thing with their lure is that it at least has a high Ca so opponents will likely have to cheat before seeing if you cheat in a suit. But yeah, think of them less than just lure, and more as an overall support model and they're solid value. Performers are similar with a lower cast, less range, non-walk spell similar to lure (though push is better through dense terrain), but amazing overall support to a number of crews. I rarely use siren call, and performers are still amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoken Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Not quite a Lure, but Ama No Zako has "Promising Whisper." Depending on what you target, it can function as a Lure where needed. Against Constructs, Vanessa can use "Command Construct" in a similar manner. Montresor has "Toss the Noose" which can be used as a Push, but the distance is straight to base contact and requires suits. While none of these are "Lures" The first two are (0) actions and the last one is an attack. Just something to consider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duront Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jack daw can hire Jakuuna which has a lure. Plus you can hire a malifaux kid, copy twist and turns power and use jakuunas lure again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seregon Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Had the Oiran still had their old choice between which suit they had built in, I'd still have a use for them. The new Oiran upgrade is also unusable unless you play 10T. Right now, there's pretty much no reason I'd ever take an Oiran over a Performer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drool_bucket Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hamelin's base range attack, Pipes, is effectively a Lure. Slightly shorter range, lower starting Ca, but a host of nice triggers. But he's a Master so kinda hard to hire him into other Outcast crews! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hamelin can also take the Sewer King upgrade, allowing him to hire Baby Kade who has Lure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hamelin can also take the Sewer King upgrade, allowing him to hire Baby Kade who has Lure. Hamelins Pipes is basically a Lure as well. Ignore me! Drool_Bucket already covered this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Brightside Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Montresor could be used to pull them into base contact with himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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