JazzNazz Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Ok I should add my 2 pence 1) Void wretches 2) Hannah 3) Hodgpodge Effegy 4)Frikorps Liberian 5) Venessa Well that's what I like to take in my crew and work well in my Viks crew I just wish I could have extra slots for Ronin, Sue and Johan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Here are my 5 in no particular order: 1. Void Wretch - Great objective runners and solid tarpits, great survivability in crews that use control cards quickly. Lots of utility with the potential to bury and heal models and hand out Fast or Slow to enemy models. For 4 SS, what's not to like? 2. Ashes and Dust - Probably the most versatile model in the game. Can produce lots of activations? Check. Puts out high damage? Check. Can summon? Check. Hard to kill permanently? Check. 3AP per activation? Check. The Ashen Core and Dust Storm are also great models. Well worth the high SS cost. 3. Rusty Alyce - Excellent henchman (henchwoman?). Great damage output with her gun, and a solid damage track in melee. Being able to reactivate constructs (albeit at a steep cost), can be game changing. Really shines with her upgrades (From the Aether and Desolate Soul) which allow her to summon Abominations. 4. Lazarus - Incredibly hard to kill with very high damage output (also - Rapid Fire +). Can set up some nice combos with Assimilate as well. 5. Ronin - My favorite minion for general purposes. Good offensively with a good damage track (ignoring armor) with a built in push and Flurry. Good defensively with an inability to be charged and hard to kill. Plus you can get SS from them by committing Seppuku! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiralngCadavr Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Models that have their own special roles that aren't really elsewhere: Void Wretches Killjoy Johan Models which are just really nice to have: ...not really sure about the other two yet. I'll need to figure those out later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectreEliteGaming Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 In order: 1) A&D 2) Johana/Johan 3) Librarian 4) Bishop 5) Death Marshal errrr... Void Wretch I guess :/ Taelor should be squeezed in there too and a fun vote goes to Killjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zinc Lich Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I did a bit of analysis on these, and the aggregate top five is as follows (the number in brackets is the amount of votes that the model received): 1. Freikorps Librarian (9) 1. Johan (9) 3. Ashes and Dust (6) 4. Hodgepodge Effigy (5) 4. Killjoy (5) In total, 18 people cast their votes for a top five. If someone gave more than one vote for a given model, I discounted the extra votes. I also skipped votes for Mercs or other non-faction minis. There's some further notes in the Resser thread which should be taken into account (the availability of the models and their roles):http://wyrd-games.ne...-five/?p=768658 Outcast players were by far the most divided in their votes out of all the factions. Only the Librarian and Johan were clearly at the top with the playerbase very divided when it came to other models. Great job! I find this list super interesting. Surprisingly, I also agree with this as the top five. I don't personally like Killjoy (at all), but I must confess that he is a unique piece that the Outcasts get a discount on. I would try and wedge Hannah in there, because she is the premier damage sink in the faction, along with bringing a ton of utility, but I don't actually know if she breaks in the top five... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 5. Killjoy (you have to try it at least once) Heh, Thursday night I played my first game with my Viktorias crew, running Murder Protege against a Misaki crew. Had Ototo down to 6 wounds when Misaki got her filthy claws on Viktoria of Ashes. Killed in pretty quickly (killings things far more quickly than anything has any right to is kind of what Misaki does), Killjoy came roaring out of the ground. Put Fast on him from the Student, unleased his 3 Ml attacks on Ototo. Not so much as a scratch!!! I think my deck was cursed - the only thing worse than the cards I flipped were the cards in my hand!! I can't even begin to tell you how disappointed I was, especially as my attack flips kept hitting the right suit for his trigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross1 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 It's Malifaux, bad things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 It is Killjoy's mitigating factor, though - his base Ml isn't super high, and he doesn't get any particular bonuses to attacks. Sometimes he just sucks and dies and there's nothing you can do about it. If you can buff him up, though... yikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectreEliteGaming Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Kadeton makes good points - It sucks to say but Killjoy doesn't seem to be the ace in the hole that he looks like he is. I've had more luck with the Engine, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I see Killjoy as being a murderer of lower level Enforcers or Minions which he will generally turn to pulp. Higher level Enforcers and most Hench/Masters have the Defences to withstand him. Although never underestimate the psychological advantage that having a buried Killjoy brings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I see Killjoy as being a murderer of lower level Enforcers or Minions which he will generally turn to pulp. Higher level Enforcers and most Hench/Masters have the Defences to withstand him. Although never underestimate the psychological advantage that having a buried Killjoy brings. My goal with Killjoy is to charge into and engage the biggest cluster of weaker models on the board and hold them up/kill them. Black blood, Terrifying and his healing ability all make him much more effective against groups of weak models than one strong one, and if something powerful tries to neutralise him having a bunch of minions to munch on will make that much harder for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross1 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 He is also great against combat master/henchman when deliver a message and frame for murder are in the scheme pool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, Killjoy and Frame for Murder is a horrible combination. Kill him off and give me VPs or let him run amok in the middle of your crew. It's quite obvious to spot so it's easy for your opponent to avoid giving 3 VPs away but 2 is pretty easy to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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