DeleteAccount Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 OK, I see they give a - to the model affecting the fated with a certain test. I've also read that only the fated ever touch the deck, so I assume this just means that they get + flips when flipping to block the actions the talents cover? And if it's an NPC, I assume it works like the text of the talent says since it actually makes sense in that scenario, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 OK! Graceful Exit If an NPC has the Talent (and has the Card Points to spend), that NPC would give a - - to the attack flips against him. If a player has the Talent, that Fated would get a ++ to attack flips against him. Roger dodger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Shine Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 OK! Graceful Exit If an NPC has the Talent (and has the Card Points to spend), that NPC would give a - - to the attack flips against him. If a player has the Talent, that Fated would get a ++ to defense flips. Roger dodger? For clarity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yes, that's how it works by the rules. I'm just trying to explain the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah, I just found it a bit confusing that every talent mentioned a + and those two mentioned -. Thanks for the feedback you Mei Feng hating monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah, the language chosen there was a bit poor, as it is not really worded for the Fated characters. Anything to get you playing something other than Mei! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordZombie Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I like the idea of the single flip, but it just doesn't work in this game. More confusion that anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malsqueek Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I like the idea of the single flip, but it just doesn't work in this game. More confusion that anything else. I disagree. It does take a bit of getting used to (especially the idea that the red joker on damage targeting the Fated actually means "0", and the Black Joker is the big hit), but once you learn to consider all bonuses in light of the Fated being the one flipping, it really is quite easy. Enemy have paired weapons? Negative twist on defense. Fated in cover? Positive twist on Defense. Enemy with Calm and Collected takes a focus action before firing a rifle? Your fated needs to take a double negative twist on their Defense. And so on. Enemy bonuses are debuffs. The single flip makes the game WAY faster. You hardly have to break stride in your storytelling once your players get a good feel of the system. Me: "The drunken Gunslinger whips his revolver from its holster and trains its barrel on your chest. He squeezes the trigger" Fated: "I try to dive behind cover" Me: "Positive Twist" Fated: "Two cards and...... Twelve" Me: "You barely manage to scramble behind the crumbling cobblestone wall when the flurry of bullets from the gunslinger peppers the stones. You are quite shaken, but otherwise unhurt" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Shine Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah, it could have been worded better, but its not that hard to remember apply positive and negatives correctly and I much prefer being able to not randomize anything Im doing as FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordZombie Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Well, we will have to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.