Myranda Shapechange

[Nazull]

On Myranda's Shapechange skill I have a few questions.

 

1 / When u change how log dose it last for. in the last game she could change then change back but I don't see the option for M2E.?

 

2 / When u do change she has 7 wounds but the Sabertooth Cerberus has 10 wounds / dose she change into the pussy cat with 7 or 10 wounds?

 

3 / Following on from 2. If she is wounded then changes dose she have the 10 wounds or the wounds she had before changing ?

 

4 / If she has any upgrades cards, dose she keep them when she changes ?

[decker_cky]

1. It's a single change that lasts all game. She can sorta have an extra one with her upgrade.

2. If Myranda is down to 1-2 wounds, and summons a cerberus, it comes in with 10 wounds. 

3. See #2. 

4. Myranda is gone - nothing transfers - she just summons a beast.

[Snakeshit]

I am using her with Raspatina. She is an 8ss model and Blessed of December is a 9ss model I am saving 1ss

[Nazull]

thank Decker_Cky

 

And Thanks Snakehit, thats a good tip

[Durza]

Just remember, when she shapechanges she is sacrificed, so don't ever take Bodyguard on her, also the model that replaces her is slow and can't interact that turn. That said, imbued energies is amazing on her, you get a new beast and four cards.

[Nazull]

I have one more Questiong about Acation points.

 

Because she is sacrificed after the model is placed. will it have the 0 Acation.

 

For example if Myranda was to use her genreal (1) AP on the healing spell twice then use the (0) AP Shapechange skill.

 

dose the new cat still get 1 of its Genreal (1) APs (Summoned)and a (0) AP.

Or dose it lose both as the Myranda model used them ?

 

 

Duraz thanks

[sssk]

Don't think of it as Myranda turning into the beast. Just think of it as Myranda dies, and a beast appears. There's no interaction between them.

 

A summoned model gains the slow condition, and can't interact, therefore that's the only limitation the summoned beast gets. It has nothing to do with what Myranda might have done earlier in the turn.

[Nazull]

thank you for that

[Nazull]

Any more tips like that ?

 

hehehe

[Durza]

Well you could slap the new upgrade killswitch on her, dealing damage to anyone around her when she shapechanges.

[Nazull]

not seen that is that a beta card ? i only know of Wave 2 cards.

[Fetid Strumpet]

Upgrade card in testing for third wave.

[dgraz]

I'm generally down on using Myranda as a "discount" anything....like a Cerberus or BoD. Those models are both Enforcers and are both either fast or defensive enough to make good use out of an Upgrade.

 

So when not in a beast list, you're losing out on the choice of an upgrade. In a beast list it's even worse, the synergy she has (just the  on Defense alone is huge), how defensive she is (Df 7 and use SS), her high Melee stat and reach, and how fast she is (Wk 6).....she is really fantastic on the table.

 

If she isn't close to death, it's always a very difficult decision for me if I want to Shapechange her.

[mythicFOX]

I'll take the opposite opinion to Dgraz. 

 

I routinely hire Myranda with Ramos to simply change into a beast of choice turn one.  It gives me an extra activation as well as some bonus movement on the first turn. I also tend to take Imbued Energies on Myranda so I can draw an extra four cards when I pop her. This is really useful for trying to grab that epic three Steam Arachnid summon with the good doctor on turn one.

 

That being said in a Marcus crew I'd certainly not play it this way, there she's too useful as she is.

[Gorbad]

I think there is a difference between how you would use her in a Marcus crew and a non-Marcus crew. Marcus probably wants to keep her around for longer, but any non-Marcus crew can easily hire her and then sacrifice her turn one to get a beast and some additional movement, activation, cards, whatever. 

Yes, you lose out on being able to give the beast she turns into an upgrade, but that's only a consideration if you were planning on doing that in the first place. And if you feel that having X upgrade on Y beast is going to be important you can of course always do that. Most of the time I probably won't bother with the upgrade anyway so I lose out on nothing.

 

Not that Miranda is a bad model at all, she is pretty good. But in a non-Marcus/Beast list you will probably get more utility out of the beast than you will of Miranda so buying Miranda first is basically just an upgrade to the beast. Gives it some additional movement turn 1.

[dgraz]

In a Raspy crew, you have the option of taking the BoD which synergizes just fine with Raspy.......but with other masters, what do you turn her into? Only thinking from a synergy view....since obviously there are no constructs or showgirls or any other real synergy that I can see. If you're just looking for a killer then the Cerberus makes sense, but is there anything else?

[Gorbad]

The nice thing about taking Myranda is that you don't need to make that choice before you see the beginning of the game. The Cerberus is a good default choice, but then so is the Blessed, I quite like that one with Colette for instance as she wants masks as well. And truthfully, she doesn't really care that much if it's a showgirl or not. She just wants good models. So the flexibility that Myranda offers of letting you see your opponents crew and set-up is not bad. And if you wanted to be really mean you can Prompt and Reactivate Myranda to get effectively 5+ APs worth out of her in turn one and then turn into a beast. Letting you deploy a beast pretty much where ever you want, with the flexibility to choose what beast that is after the game have started.

[brdparker]

I really want to try her out with Ironsides and a raptor to embeasten the master and have her make melee attacks and get some healing. Sounds like a silly combo to me.

[Sandals]

Another question about this ability:

 

If I hire Cojo in my crew, and he dies, can Myranda then turn into him? I know you're not allowed multiples of him on the table at once, and she can obviously do it if you don't hire him, but I wasn't sure about if he was dead before the shapechange happened.

[dgraz]

Yes she can. The only rule that matters is the rarity rule of models being on the table............if he's a Corpse Marker, Myranda if free to go ape-sh*t.

[Sandals]

Awesome, thanks!