Smeagle

Chasing an update. Are newer released models made of something other than melted cheese?

How are they not? I really like them. Fast, cheap way to get blight onto bunched enemies early.

There is NO Void Hunter Card in the latest download. So were they removed?

But as worded, it isn't 1 for 1.

And still Wyrd remain silent.

Case in point that this material is garbage. And still not addressed..

Well then that makes perfect sense! 😊

But you aren't flipping an "additional asset". You are flipping the same asset, twice..

Im still very confused.

The issue is that all of these factors combined, added to the fact that Wyrd seem to think a generic "just bend them back" is a suitable remedy for a nearly 100 dollar model that fits inside the palm of my hand. These models are barely worth the money in the state they are provided in. If the game is to continue, Wyrd need to address the manufacturing and quality control issues. Already people who have bought models in our group have said they are done with buying TOS models. Which is a shame, because the game is amazing.

Recently a number of people within my gaming group and the larger community have bought or received items from Wyrd for the new game "The Other Side". Upon opening the boxes it is a common, almost garuanteed occurrence that at least one model within the box will be bent beyond the ability for it to be used for its intended purpose, and/or so poorly assembled that it again requires a level of repair that should not be expected in a game touted heavily as "ready to play, fully assembled miniatures". Upon contacting Wyrd regarding a piece, bought at retail pricing of AUD $95, which had bent wheels/chassis so bad that without a large amount of work to repair is completely unusable. A reply was received from Wyrds "customer service" department, providing a link to a thread in this forum with instructions on how to fix/repair your own models using hot and cold water, bending them and /or freezing them. No responsibility is being taken by Wyrd addressing the issues a large number of customers around the world have with these sub par models. I understand that the models were always going to be fully assembled PVC. But for the price point, the models should be complete, with no or very, very minimal issues. And where there ARE issues, Wyrd should be rectifying them as is expected of a company providing sub par and inferior faulty goods or services. Within this response is the gem - "I apologize for the trouble with your warped plastic. It's not an uncommon issue with certain kinds of plastic, and thankfully there is an extremely simple fix!" - If this is the case, Wyrd, why do you insist on using this medium, and continuing to charge such blatantly exorbitant prices for it? In any case, these fixes are frequently temporary in nature, and should also not be the first response from a company providing the fault in the first place. Reaper miniatures has similar issues, however these are not attempting to pass them off as premium or charging premium prices for the experience. In Australia, consumers are protected by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. This gives consumers certain rights when it comes to purchases, and requires suppliers, distributors and manufacturers to abide by certain obligations. A few things are required of products sold here. <Products must be of acceptable quality, that is: -safe, lasting, with no faults -look acceptable -do all the things someone would normally expect them to do. -Acceptable quality takes into account what would normally be expected for the type of product and cost. Products must also: -match descriptions made by the salesperson, on packaging and labels, and in promotions or advertising -match any demonstration model or sample you asked for -be fit for the purpose the business told you it would be fit for and for any purpose that you made known to the business before purchasing -meet any extra promises made about performance, condition and quality. You can claim a remedy from the retailer if the products do not meet any one or more of the consumer guarantees, with the exception of availability of spare parts and repair facilities. The remedies you can seek from the retailer who sold you the product include a repair, replacement, or refund and in some cases compensation for damages and loss. The retailer can’t refuse to help you by sending you to the manufacturer or importer> So essentially, if Wyrd is able but not willing to help. Or visa versa then consumers should go directly to the FLGS that sold the products for refund or replacement. Essentially Wyrd is now passing the buck onto the local stores, as it's all a bit "too hard basket" for them it seems. This is disappointing from a company known for the quality of its models. If Wyrd is not able to change the plastic used, at the VERY least, it could review its packaging methods. Having said that, I don't think that would suffice, due to the woeful quality of this material. This is absolutely losing Wyrd customers for ToS, and the lack of support is losing them customers in general. What is Wyrds response to this issue?

I understand that the Abyssinian Allegiance card allows for Prototypes to be attached at the start of the game ignoring limits. However the asset Overclocked allows you to attach more throughout the game. This asset does not stipulate that you ignore limits, only that you can not attach a prototype already in play, and that the unit may not already have a prototype... Is this correct? Because if so, it severely limits a major aspect of Abyssinian tactics and makes Overclocked not worth taking at all. You can't attach to either Champion (they already have assets atrsched usually) or a squad that has an adjunct (as that's an asset)..

Cool. I was hoping that was the case, but the rule book doesn't explain that very well, because it doesn't show the rear of the asset card... Thanks.

I realise now that the Allegiance card is how Unathi got the extra Asset.. But over clocked doesn't let you ignore attachment rules...

What assets actually have the Scrap rule? The rule book provides precisely zero with that rule.

How are you attaching 3 assets to Unathi and two to the Mehal Safari? That takes them over the limits allowed. No?

I've got a bunch of checker plate plasticard that might work...

Has anyone got any tips for removing the African Child Soldiers from our titan so that it looks less like a miscast?

Any tips for getting an Abyssinian Dreadnought not half the size of all the other Titans?

Just curios when the issues with the TINY Abyssinia "Titan" might get addressed and sorted out. The model is tiny, overpriced and looks ridiculous.