Aegnor

Hi.

One of my main play partner is a big fan of outcast alphastrikes and often play  the bury+scion+beater combo. (usually void wretch + scion + vik of blood shezul + emissary for companion on blood).

I play collodi lynch and titania and a vik of blood with shezul charging me turn 1 is very annoying since she can easily kill anything i have (marionette effigy illuminated thorn/claw/tooth stitched and so on).

I manage to avoid big whirldwinds but the best i managed to do so far is to sacrifice some models to her turn 1-2 until i can kill her (which is easy enough).

So my question to you is simple : what can/should we do to avoid this alphastrike and what can we do to deal with the scion of the void to make him unable to do his job in that case?

I though of taking bad juju+eternal fiend to block the void wretch bury but it's not very cheap (and you need at least one swampfiend) and doesn't work anymore for other scion alphastrike (with talos tara or death marshals).

They should just say 'ignore amor' then. Cannot be reduced is way too simple and direct and create some absurd things in my opinion like :

misaki blasts can't be reduced by 'blast proof' but do nothing against freikorps suits (and freikorps pretty much all have armor).

So blast proof which is an already rare and not so powerfull ( can be useless or very good but against some specific crews) is countered by.... blasts....

On the other side models with armor where you need the 'can't be reduced' thing are also immune to misaki's blasts. 

My main problem with misaki is that i'm a collodi player. You can have models not really bunched up when running the collodi bubble against typical blasters and puppet master can keep you alive. But with misaki even the 6" bubble is way too bunched up and she can get through personal puppet. Like she hit a marionette (ml 7 vs df 5, easy) cheat severe and now my marionette and two other model (lets say personal marionette and collodi) take 3. You do it twice and you have killed one marionette + one other (personal puppet or an effigy for example) and collodi is now 3hp left of 9 (if i don't stone). You can say that she need positioning and i should'nt have model such that she can hit 2 with the 2 blast marker but since collodi and effigy buffs are 6" or 8" with los needed at least when you cast it this is very very hard to do.

Oh nice. Never though about that. Little nasty trick

Hannah and a grootslang? why?

Hi.

I was wondering if we had any good options against blast. Like what would you do if you are against lazarus, the pigapult or more tricky the new misaki upgrade (where damage reduction is no longer an option) ?

I also play gremlins and we have merris lacroix for example. Outcast have the freikorpsmen. So do we have anything?

As i expected the official app (which is pretty good btw but kinda slow) doesn't know what to do with the upgrade either. It works fine to add warped reality on enforcer when you have serena in the crew but you simply can't add it to any minions. I reported in with the contact form but this show again that clarification would be nice.

Hello piglovers.

Ulix is currently my only gremlin master and i love him. I mostly play summon + pigapult list but i also love the burt+gracie pair.

The main problem i have is that most of the people in my local meta are playing a lot of alphastrike lists. Most of them are outcast with a vik/tara player, a von schill/tara/jack daw player and a tara/lynch one. So i very often (almost everygame in fact) some variations of bury-alpha-strike with bloodwrecth, death marshal, scion of the void, emissary + any beater (vik of blood, bishop, killjoy and so on).

If i'm not very careful about my deployment and my first turn i can (and i often did) lose a lot of model/a key model (old major for example)/the pigapult (hello bishop and vik's mark of 'i don't care you die anyway') very early.

I would like to know if you have any tips or tactics to answer alpahstrike lists in general and outcasts one especially. I think big brain can be good to deny some triggers (whirlwind or bishop triggers) and help pig wp weakness but maybe you know of other interesting models.

I look forward to see your answers.

If you are region locked you can Always find the app's apk on some apk mirror web site. I won't Share a link there because i don't know if it's ok though.

It's what i think so.

The weird part is that it never says it's on top of the usual allowed for minions. So you have to assume it's on top for minion and if you assume that you could also assume it's on top for enforcer as well. Anyway this upgrade should really get an errata for another wording

Hi everyone.

The warped reality upgrade from Serena bowman says it can only be attached to minion and enforcer in her crew. So it seems that you can put it on minion bypassing the usual restriction even if it isn't directly said (like on some other upgrades).

Now what happen if you put it on an enforcer who already has an upgrade. In both case you put one more upgrade than the allowed number on your model.

I think you can't do this but i'm only 90% sure and i would like to know the exact explanation/wording for this case.

And just in case if I'm wrong and we can do this, could we then have an enforcer with warped reality and a nightmare restricted upgrade (yeah my twisted mind thinks of dreaming wings)

Thanks a lot