Bisounours

What do you bring for Non-Demise models? The only one I’m tempted to reach for OOK is Midnight stalker and he’s yet another demise piece.

Doesn’t say that on the crew builder cards. Says anytime they kill a model.

Just mentioned it as it was also OOK and the guy who ran the list mentioned them as a hiring pair for his lists.

There’s discussion in this forum of her being taken in a Tara list alongside a scavenger.

I have a feeling you aren’t paying 11 stones just for Arcane Reservoir meaning the rest is not just cake. I think it would be interesting to look at how she stacks up against BBB also out of keyword.

Really interested in your list but was looking at other options other than Marlena. If you didn’t take Marlena, what would you use the other 8 stones for? Midnight Stalker Hans Another Scavenger or maybe a Prospector + an upgrade?

cool. Thank you!

Did she/he post any of their list/matchup information?

You are correct. I probably could have worded it better considering the changes to hiring second masters in 3E. Freikorps seems like an interesting pick and the Hulk Hogan ascetic has always been tempting...

Very cool. I'll definitely look into them!

Neither ><. I guess I could have made that more clear somehow. I'm asking as someone playing just the Viks into every game, what master/keyword would you take up as a second choice to cover bad strategy/scheme/faction matchups when the Viks aren't a good choice.

What master/keyword best covers the Viks weak strategies/schemes or faction match ups? For example, they definitely seem to struggle the most with Corrupted Idols and Assassinate. What master covers these matchups the best? Are there other factions or matchups that Viks have too much trouble into that also need coverage? My first thoughts based on limited information on the other masters is to lean towards Leveticus and Zipp. I could see both Leveticus and Viks struggling into something like Nephilim/Black Blood but he is certainly more durable and would cover well into defensive tech like armor/incorporeal/butterfly jump that Viks could struggle with. While both Zipp and Viks can do great at scheming, Zipp brings alot to the table in almost any strategy/scheme and Flying Piglets should be great into the Viks worst strategy - Corrupted Idols. If you were to add a single second master/keyword to your repertoire to cover Viks matchups, who would you choose?

No mood swings when she’s not the leader unfortunately. Big bummer cause I could see it being a good counter to some masters/crews that want that specific activation order.

So in general, is she just getting sent up the middle of the board and trying to hand out as much stunned as possible? Do you have any issues with her getting focused and taken out quickly? If they can make it through her terrifying she doesn't have seem to have much within the crew to help keep her alive.

These double master lists seem very interesting to me, especially bringing in Pandora to a dreamer crew. What schemes/strategies or opponents are you countering with Nekima and Pandora? Nekima seems pretty self sufficient without being a Nephilim leader but Pandora seems to miss out on quite a bit not being leader/with woes.

I was definitely planning on picking up the starter to get my hands on Angel. A bit bummed the halfbloods arent too great because I do like their models. Maybe They'll get an uptick from people's assumptions that they'll be a keyword in Explorers. Thanks for all of the info. It will definitely be helpful! Focus seems like it has really picked up in this edition and become a big part of a lot of crews. I'll definitely try running a couple BBS to get the hang of it. Thanks for all the info! The Rougarou definitely look fantastic and so do their models. I'll definitely keep an eye out and see if I can pick some up after I get used to the keyword stuff. Yeh I REALLY like the idea of the double mature lists. They just seem like such fantastic beaters. Speedy, tanky, and big damage minions that get full benefit from the new upgrade format seems like a lot of fun and a real headache for the opponent. I'll definitely give your list a shot.

I think I’ll have to try out the rougarou alpha sometime for sure. Or maybe hinamatsu could be enough depending on the board and how your opponent moves. Would it be crazy to remove the mature nephilim in your list for Hinamatsu? Really the only Nephilim support to be missed on Nekimas card is her aura for free attacks on their death. So maybe she’s a decent stand in master for puppets? Hinamatsu with Vasilisas tempting threads aura and healing seems pretty tempting...

This looks like a very fun list. I’m sold! Although probably worth throwing 2 of those stones into Inhuman Reflexes for Nekima to try and keep her alive for a bit longer after her alpha strike.

Alpha strikes? Now we're talking! How often do you find yourself using Vasilisa? You can actually grow in one turn by having Vasilisa double a bonus action on a nephilim right? I've seen a number of posts mentioning wicked dolls over hounds and have definitely found the idea intriguing.

Yeh I've read most of these and definitely got some decent ideas. I know I'll have to get some games in to figure out which models are worth using. Just wanted to make sure I got some of the core ones to try out first. I'll give the one mature a go. Which of the other big versatile or keyword hires do you find you get the most use out of or use the most often? I'm pretty keen on Angel Eyes but both Heyreddin and Serena also seem good. Do you find Serena gets enough work done without Nightmares to attack from?

Awesome. Thanks for all of your thoughts! I'll have to take a look at that Lelitu and Lelu heal chain...

Returning player here looking to get started in 3E with a Nekima crew. I've done a fair amount of searching on here, reddit, and various other sources but have found fairly minimal discussion on Nekima in 3E. What discussion I have found hasn't really focused on what models she likes to bring to the table. Maybe because her keyword is fairly small and it seems obvious to everyone else but with her fairly expensive minions I've been having a tough time making lists before I get into purchasing. So maybe you guys can help me out with a few questions! 1. What are Nekima's essential hires that make up the core of her typical crew? - Is it worth hiring both Mature Nephilim despite the steep cost? What kind of mix of BBS and Young should I be bringing to a table? 2. What Keyword models should be avoided? - Are Tots and Hounds ever worth taking? Is it worth running Hayreddin over a second Mature? Lelu and Lilitu seem to be often disregarded in 3E. 3. What Versatile/OOK models synergize with or fill in gaps in her normal crew? - Hinamatsu seems like a great option to get another tanky beater but also providing a lure to help launch Nekima into the opposing crew at the end of turn 1. Angel Eyes could provide some ranged support to an otherwise completely melee crew. Are there any other OOK models that help speed up or buff Nekima that are worth taking? 4. How many stones do you find yourself running with Nekima? - Her crew seems fairly Minion heavy and Nekima seems destined to die fairly early in most matches. Does this lead to running a fairly small stone pool in most games? Bonus - Anyone found a good stand in model for the Blood Hunter? If anyone has any experiences to help answer these questions it would be a great help to getting me started into getting a crew together. Thanks!

Might want to at least list your ebay account name so people can look it up?

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