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I saw a thread in the Arcanist forum with this idea and thought it would be fun to do here. So pretty much what the title says. What upgrades would you like to see on some of our masters?

@retnab I like a lot of your picks. Sandeep for the magician is especially interesting. As well as Hoffman being the reverse of the wheel. I'm a curious why you put Lucius as the reverse aspect of the emperor though. Not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious. @Viks_Masamune neither do I. I just really like the idea and background of the tarot cards. Especially as a plot device. I've used them a lot when building campaigns for RPGs. It can actually make quite a lot of interesting plot hooks and characters.

Thanks, it's amazing what being stuck in a train for two hours will do to you. Perdittia might be a good choice for the world. Another idea I had which might work could be using the breach. It might server better as part of the background art, but it's an idea. Ya a gremlin might have to be it for the sun, but who? Sommer? That does sound like a pretty good idea to use molly as the moon. It also really fits in with her character and theme. I did like the idea of brewy as temperance. If for no other reason than irony. I was originally thinking Marcus for the chariot. He's got a very strong will and natural drive. He also has a lot to do with combining his body and spirit to become an Apex predator. Hoffman is an interesting idea for the lovers. I hadn't thought about that connection. I was thinking kirai because her story involved her and her fiance. They were star crossed lovers and her need for vengeance came from her fiance being murdered. Keep in mind yan lo is also a resser. I also liked him for the role since the heriophant is always portrayed as male, but also because he captures both the spirit and the physical world.

After seeing the new tarot deck it got me thinking. If you were to represent the various major arcana with masters from malifaux who would you use and why? Since I'm currently stuck on a train and have had a few minutes I decided to throw up a quick list and some of my justifications for some of the choices. I'm stuck on a few though and I'm curious what other people think. The other thing I'm curious about is if I someone were to make an actual tarot deck how would you go about displaying the the 22 major trump cards. In a standard fate deck you've only got twelve face cards and two jokers where you can really show off a bit of art without breaking the theme. I suppose you could dip into the 10's and 9's and maybe put a frame around the art so it matches the other moderate and weak cards. I'm curious what people would think about that though. Anyways here's the list I've come up with: 0- the fool - the dreamer The fool is generally represented by someone on the beginning of a journey. Generally holding a stick with a bundle of possessions representing untapped knowledge or abilites. To me this sounds a lot like the dreamer. He's definitely the youngest master in the game and is just now starting to really tap into his power. For the art you could also include a teddy/daydream following him instead of a dog. 1- the magician - Collette or Ramos The magician is usually represented by someone who's able to wield the classical elements to reshape the world around you. It also generally refers to having the tools at hand to achieve your goals. There's also the connection of being a bridge between the earthly and the Divine. The straight forward answer is Collette since she is the magician of malifaux, but I think Ramos is the better answer. He's mastered his craft and his abilites and is always pushing to achieve his goals. 2- the priestess - Pandora So this one might not be a perfect fit, but I think works pretty well. So the high priestess often refers to listening to your mind and you're inner instincts. Pandora generally focuses on a lot of the mental aspects of a person. Albeit to generally kill them. The priestess is also ment guide the fool on his journey after meeting the magician, which Pandora is sort of doing for candy. She's also supposed to be the sister of the empress which is... 3- the empress - lillith The empress is supposed to be heavily connected with nature. As well as showing compassion and nurturing and other maternal instincts. Lillth seems like a dead ringer for the role. 4- the emperor - governor general, Titania, Lucius The emperor is an authoritarian leader who represents strength, control, and structure. I don't want to use the gov, mostly because he's not a master. Titania is an option but I'm trying to keep along the gender lines. I think Lucius is the best bet. He's the second in command in malifaux and definitely fits the control and power aspects. One of the symbols in the art of the emperor is that the throne is decorated with Ram heads. Which to me just adds to it. I can easily see the picture being Lucius in his office. 5- heriophant - yan lo The heriophant is supposed to be the bridge between the earthly world and the spirit world. To me this seems like yan lo. Since he is able to walk between the paths of both worlds. 6- the lovers - Seamus & Molly, the Vik's, kirai Here's where I start to have some issues. The lovers are supposed to represent well, love, but also an intimate connection between two people. It doesn't have to be romantic in nature. Still I think kirai might be the best choice. I'm still not sure though. 7- the chariot- Marcus, zipp, kaeris, This one I have no idea. It doesn't have to be a literal chariot. It's supposed to represent an upcoming victory. That when you combine your mind and spirit with your natural drive you can achieve your goal. So Marcus? Maybe? 8- strength - Ironsides Strength represent strength of fortitude, character and courage. The art also generally depicted as a woman opening up the jaws of a lion. Seems like Ironsides to me. 9- the hermit - zorida, Marcus The hermit is about withdrawing from society to find answers from within. Since Marcus might be used in the chariot I think he's out of the running for this one. Besides I think zorida might be a better choice. 10- wheel of fate - lynch The wheel represent a change in state's. Whether it's a change in status, situation, or fortune. Seems like a good pick for the gambler. 11- justice - lady j Justice is about karma and knowing your choices have consequences. Also it's called justice. 12- the hanged - jack daw Again this one is pretty straight forward. 13- death- Nico, Reva Death isn't necessarily about death. It's about things ending and sometimes about new beginnings. For a necromancer death is just the beginning. 14- temperance - misaki(?), Shenlong, Molly, Sandeep, brewmaster I've got know clue on this one. Temperance is about peace and patience. Taking life as it comes and trying not to force things. Another interpretation is a play on temperance itself. Where one tempers themselves like a metal. The art generally depicts a woman or an angel. 15- the devil - lucius, hamelin I really want Lucius for this but he fits really well as the emperor. So I think hamelin fills the role nicely. The devil represents a feeling of being powerless, like you have no control. When in reality you are bound only by internal limitations. Also tyrant, devil, same thing. 16- the tower - raspy and temple of December, Sonia The tower represents a great upheaval or calamity. I think Sonia could fit well. Her ordeal with cherufea and it's lasting effects on her could be a good representation. 17- the star - Collette, perdita, Mei, molly The star represents hope, healing and inspiration. The art generally depicts a person with one foot on land and another in water. I have some ideas but I'm not sure who. I've got some suggestions but none that stand out. 18- the moon - Seamus, Pandora, zorida The moon deals with ones dreams and subconscious. It also deals with ones fears and inner doubts. There's also some mention of ones animal instincts. Since Pandora is being used for the priestess maybe Seamus? 19- the sun - I have no idea. Who's happy in malifaux? Mcmourning? The sun represents joy, happiness, and optimism. It's a sign for things going well, but malifaux is about bad things happening. So I don't know. 20- judgement - Levi Judgement is about your past and future. Reviewing your actions and making sure they are inline with your end goal. It's also a representation of the final judgement. Since Levi is the Crux upon which malifauxs fate revolves it seems fit for him to represent it. 21- the world - The world is the end of a cycle before the beginning of the next. It symbolizes complete understanding of ones self after ones travels. I don't even have a guess for this one. So what do you guys think? Who should represent which trump?

Sorry if its been asked but has there been any pictures of the actual tarot cards? Im curious as to what they actually look like.

So what do you generally do in a very kill heavy pool? Do you play Hamelin with more of an elite crew focused on obeys?

Why is Levi out of favor? Is it because of the changes to eliminate the leadership?

Pretty much what the title says. I'm coming back to the game after a short hiatus and would like some help selecting three outcast masters to focus on in order to more or less relearn the faction. I'd like to have a selection of masters that complement each other and cover each other's weaknesses. I'm not really sure what most of the masters are especially good at as opposed to other master in the faction. Any advice about where their individual strengths lie would be greatly appreciated. As far as my personal playstyle goes, I'm open to just about anything really. It's more of a question of how interesting the master is. I prefer masters with more depth, such as shenlong as opposed to say lady j. The only two things I know I want to do is that I want to definitely include jack as one of the master I want to focus on, and I don't want to use VonSchill.

Forgot to post my models. I'll be doing Sensi Yu to start. Trying to get my temple of the dawn crew done for my henchman application. Because he's a pretty simply model I'll also be doing rock and roll peasant. As for the HRM I'm just gunna finish him up since I started him awhile ago. I dont think he counts for points but might as well get him done. https://imgur.com/gallery/7PN9Y For some reason I can't get it to embed the link from my phone.

I typically take a nurse to heal him when I'm playing Daw. Mostly because her other options are also good. Besides I also bring Johan and just yell it off. Outside of Daw, a librarian is probably your best bet.

Oh yup, you're right. Forgot that bit. Ya it would be nice if he could use the obey, or driven. He can still copy some neat attacks through feel their torment. Like Johan's relic hammer, or Alice's gun (assuming you make them tormented).

I agree with @Rogue1. Being able to copy some of jacks abilities is helpful. Mostly the feel their torment ability, but also for suppressed memories on occasion. Between jacks high cast, the attack targeting WP, and the plus flip, the -3 doesn't matter as much. Mostly it's just to get curses out. Also a 2ss activation isn't bad.

You and me both. Well here's hoping they'll be in the Easter sale! I can understand that. It only needs a low ram though and it can hit more than just slow and paralyze. The gun is nice. Personally I think it's more an question of preferences. I prefer the melee, but I can respect the flamethrower. As for FfM I don't have much of a problem with Daw since the curses can kill people pretty easily. Just throw something on someone after beating them up, then obey them to shoot someone.

Why not use johan over the specialist? It's the same walk but he's 2 points cheaper with a slightly better def. Also he doesn't blow up when killed and the relic hammer is nice. Also dead outlaws, while a little, more expensive then what your looking for, could work. Especially if you save the points on the specialist. They're not as fast as other options but they're good at fighting heavier things with upgrades and denying scheme markers.

I used him for the first time the other day. It was into guard the stash and show of force against soomer. So pretty much he just sat in the middle and pulled people into him or he just walked to engage someone. Also Brick by brick is hilarious when soomer uses bigger hat then you. I've also been thinking of running him in henchman hardcore along with the nothing beast.

Considering the size of chompy... I would say 13 is fair.

Just got back into the swing of painting again. Seems like a good time to sign up. Put me down for enforcer. I'll probably go over it, but between school and work I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Alright, that seems like a good place to start. Would you recommend any henchman in particular or would any really work? Would you have a suggestion for two crews that would be fairly well tailored to fight each other while showing off a good amount of the game? This would also be with a tailored scheme pool and strat.

I'm starting to drum up a bit of a malifaux community in my local area and I'd like to try to get better at demoing. I've given a few demos and they've gone pretty well, but one of the problems I have is that most of the master I own are a bit more complicated then I'd like for a demo. I prefer higher skill capped master for myself because I find them fun, but most players starting out are going to be struggling with the basic rules. Let alone giving them someone like shenlong with all his condition stacking and style swapping. What I'm interested in is finding some good crew boxes to demo with. I'd prefer to use the boxes as they are so if there is a new player who likes it they can just buy the box and go. I'm fine with using things like general upgrades since that will probably be their next purchase. Beyond that they can be any master from any faction. If you have a suggestion for two that are pretty balanced for fighting each other that's even better. Also if anyone has any general tips or guides on demoing I'd love to give them a read.

F***ing these! my rattler is still missing a head because of this. As for other models, I somehow managed to break two out of four of the wires for my strongarm suit. As for just confusing to assemble, I just kind of guessed about most of the random bits on the Hodgepodge emissary.

Unfortunately I don't own Ironsides. I'm tempted to buy her after her errata, but I'm a little light on hobby money after captain con.

The new player is playing VonSchill, and I don't mind playing at a disadvantage. I can see you're point about too many decisions, but I think its important about to show off some of the key features of the game. I do like the frame for murder suggestion.

Thanks for the advice guys. What do you think would be a good pair of schemes to use? Im planning on using GG17 since thats what the rest of us use. I think it'll just make the transition into actual games easier. For strategy I think either headhunter or guard the stash would be good. Headhunter still shows off killing but you have to do it carefully unlike in other wargames. It also shows off interacting and denying interacting. GTS because it's fairly similar to certain warmachine scenarios.

Thanks for the input guys. Ya I figured the summoners would most likely be a bad place to start, and shenlong and the Vik's would be either too much going on or to much murder. As for raspy I can see the how showing him how powerful the blast are and why the friekops ability is strong. My only concern for raspy is how she tends to blow something off the board every turn. I feel like this might be discouraging. Also should I pick less optimal targets? Like blasting a generic guy as opposed to a strongarm suit. He's a very proficient warmachine player and he understands the basic gist of the rules. I mostly want to get across the finer points of the game. Like learning to use focus, or utilizing cover, or the importance of schemes over random killing. I can see some points where raspy would shine, but I'm still unsure. I could use her killing ability as a pseudo clock but idk. What do you guys think?

Trying to get my buddy into Malifaux, and hes starting with VonSchill. I'd like to pair him up against someone who's not super complicated, but gives him a bit of an advantage. Who do you guys think would be a good match for him? Currently I have: Arcanist: Raspy Marcus Kaeris Ramos Sandeep Outcasts: Viks Hamelin Daw Ten Thunders: Shenlong