Tapdancer

Hi Luke could you, for the avoidance of confusion, take myself and Mr. Doxey off the list. I know this will be huge disappoint to our many, many fans but we are doing other stuff.

Does this mean Doxy has to bring me?

David thanks for running such a great event and particular thanks to Jamie & Chris for doing their care in the community bit by helping an old man ease back in to Malifaux. It showed some real class making being absolutely murdered an enjoyable experience.

Almost back to back 2day event is going to be a problem where accommodation and travel costs have to be factored in.

Camping? If there is can I bring my dog (I am sure he be classed as an emotional support animal)? Camping with Barny & Doxey, it would be hilarious.

Currently six signup, will be running fixed Neverborn Marcus because 2020 is season of the fluff.

Tickets Bought Paul Butler Foxy Doxey

This is my issue. That line of logic is fine and without issue when applied to abilities that specifically affect final duel totals. The issue being pushed is that because there is no reference to modifiers when determining current duel total at the cheating stage in the rules manuals then all abilities which modify duel totals have to be treated as if they say final duel total even if they say they simply say affect duel totals, even though, in the case of Chi, you are being required to choose to apply an ability at that the current duel stage of the process . It is a corner case issue for Shenlong, it is a mess for Yan Lo.

This particular point and points like this come up across / are pushed on multiple platforms. They also end up coming up in tournament games, often when a player can squeeze some advantage out of it. I’ve conceded points in game when I’ve had neither the time or energy to start trawling through rules to argue the finer points of the English language. More often than not these debates just create an alleged level of uncertainty with the inevitable it needs an faq. If this was a purely esoteric debate then they’d be no issue but it isn’t so it effect can be tiresome.

Couldn't agree more, this constant trying to find minor wording issues and dress them up an equally legitimate way of reading the rules is tiresome.

Tickets bought Paul & James

Tickets Bought Paul Butler James Doxey Team : Leodis Beauties

James, locally TT's get chucked in the bin by a filthy Arcanist player on an every bloody week basis so technically it feels very honest when we play

Neverborn propaganda we have many styles

So the inevitable confusion commences

see above, there were loads on the shelf today.

Not technically true Contact Leodis Games (Leeds), was there about an hour ago they had 3-4 copies of most of what is out. Was tempted by the TT faction book.

We’ve done this discussion before. There is a technical argument for applying the ability in a silly way, I argued it that way; the consensus was I needed to stop being silly

Ticket bought

As TO that’ll do for playing shenlong in the event. On a wholly unrelated note does anyone have a lotus eater I can borrow?

Speaking as an actual Shenlong player a number of things work. Kiria is the most challenging her vengeance ability really stacks up particularly as the onslaught trigger is just as important (it generates Chi rather than consumes it) as the irreducible trigger. Same is true of her favourite secondary beater Yasanori that depends on onslaught and hates chip damage. THis is also true of terrifying models, it matters, draining hand of of low cards and moderates works because of how Drunken Style works. Shenlong hates the totem outside of reckoning, such a waste of resource if the bloody thing pops right back up after killing. Any model that prevents attacks generated by charges and or retargets attacks, Ashagari have been super effective in disrupting a Shenlong. Kill the scheme runners and totems. I have lost games whilst murdering a crew because they have sacrificed their beaters to kill my point scoring minions. Don't be scared of the Charm Warders they are a great model for 7 points but they have to be up front / in melee to be truly dangerous to a summoner and they have nothing but chi to keep them alive. Shenlong will have ways round most counter picks but remember all of those way round will be way less efficient than Drunken River Style spamming onslaught/irreducible I have been beaten by a number of times by Resser masters, Kiri, Von Stuck and Yan Lo (That was in TT but I believe the approach was transferable). It always been because of smart picks, smart positional play and making that game winning choice when it matters.

We can sort lifts from station for those coming by train

so so sexy now that my tickets been bought

Tom, echoing David’s comments. Great TOing, whole event was great and the venue was a real revelation.

It has effectively been banned in all significant Tournaments across the UK. I see no appetite across the top tier players for the ban to be relaxed. I loved playing duel masters Dreamer/Zoraida was amazing was utterly shit to play against in many strat and scheme pools