ChefsDad

Can you hire more than 2 Kin models? As they're special forces? Edit: ignore me, you took Ophelia. Is Francois not killing in melee? Waldegeists could be an option depending on terrain, or kade? Hooded rider could add some extra threat too, and he's cheaper than mature and juju...?

I put all 3 on a 30mm base, Painted them ethereal and use them as a doll themed primordial magic. I have the actual model in case anyone objects. Could do the same but paint them on the same style as your other dolls and use it as a counts as wicked doll. Objective counters?

Hanger can't copy Ca as far as I know. I think it's doable but you'll need to be flipping 10+ for all models except Z, as they're all Ca 4. Looks brutal on paper but I think it would be less likely to work in reality. Let us know how it works out for you though

I hear you, but... Lelu kinda has to be taken with lilitu, so you could argue that the pair are 5 stones more. If 2 sided does work as suspected, teddy may be faster with the Dreamer, as he can dump teddy in range to attack. Teddy is more resilient (not taking into account same malignant force, of course). If Teddy dies, he doesn't by default kill another model.

Looks like no Lelu/Lilitu in a dreamer crew for me then! Am happy about the dreamer changes, but I feel like that further limits his crew. Not so chuffed about that.

Wait, what? Buried says in the game but not in play? So if both are not in play then they arent affected?

Primordial Magic is ugly. Daydreams are sexy. That's my argument. On a serious note, I like the daydreams. Love the flexibility. The ability to put different elements of the Crew in different places is awesome IMO. If you take the PM you gain a card but lose the flexibility of DD. If you take the DD you gain flexibility but don't actually lose anything vs other crews (except with Daw, rasputina, or a librarian).

Sad face was worried that was the caSe. So swap the effigy for a madness, as it shoots and can work with tucos terrifying. Or, aZoraida and a full cache? Possible 3 obeys and ranged spell damage?

Looks tasty. I don't know what the ins and outs of her crew hiring restrictions are, but for pure shooty: Zoraida Von Schill Trapper Tuco Papa Loco Brutal effigy Not sure if the effigy compromises the special forces rule, or if her doll rule overrules that?

With regards to smaller games, my friends and I went a couple of weeks playing 15 SS games, and that was quite fun. So: Lilith Young Terror tot Terror tot Terror tot Zoraida Silurid Silurid Silurid ?

Can the doll not cast it too? I.e. summon voodoo doll in front of zoraida, repulsive, then activate doll and do it again for an effective 12" at start?

Cheers guys! Im looking at puppet wars models as stand ins. Will be acceptable?

Just wondered if anyone has used any of the effigies yet, and if you have, what models have you been using?

Dreamer, Zoraida, Lilith, Collodi, Pandora, Kirai, Nicodem, Ophelia. Only painted 35 stones of Dreamer so far. Need to catch the painting bug again!

Love the green. The painted one isnt that bad either. I just think were being so spoiled with AWESOME sculpts that this one may look poor in comparison. I like the model and the style. Im glad shes thrown the candy and taken a new direction. Gives her a new angle fluffwise.