Derkus

Well I think the answer to that question is that either not everyone understands, or that they are bad at math . I completely follow Mr. Shines quote from Justin, and that is how I understood it... but it is not the math that Dracomax posted... hence my confusion.

I am confused by what you are saying here... if you round up to 4 (which is true) why would the incorporeal model only take 3 damage? The Half damaged the gremlin takes should be 50% (rounded up) of the final damage inflicted on the target model (which is the number of wounds the model looses, not any other part of the equation). My thought on why it is like this (as it was in 1.5) is simply for game balance. If armor or other effects are reducing the actual damage inflicted, the cost (in wounds) is adjusted accordingly. If risk was greater than reward, then the ability would be terrible in some cases.

I have been starting to toy with Somer as a badass instead of as a summoner. I like it. While he is not a specialized combat expert he is pretty darned good all around. I am discovering the he can beat down other masters (not all obviously, but a fair amount) and most models have a healthy fear of him. This is a hugely overlooked aspect of him. Df6 and a great trigger make him survivable, Dirty cheater lets him stay healthy, Bayou two card lets him keep cheating (and healing with Dirty Cheater). Anyway, it is all pretty amazing and I'll probably be giving my opponents a break from the summon engine for a bit.

Goblin Faction? Da Boyz dun no ef ya b'long 'ere.

Mr. Bearn, you and your crew may want to take another look at the Incorporeal rule as you half all damage from Sh and Ml attack actions. It no longer matters about being a "spell".

I understand what your saying. My only game with Tara so far was at the end of Beta and it was hot Tara on Tara action. Interesting to say the least. In this case we pretty much were at the same advantage/disadvantages so it is hard to gauge how it will play out in most battles. However, I think a key point you missed is that when Tara gives fast to her opponents her crew gains bonus's against those fast models. Need to disengage from combat with a Void Wretch? Give the opponent Fast to get a plus flip to your df as you disengage. Combined with their high defense (assuming you have a small hand by then) you have a really good chance to get away. Being able to Bury models then use there abilities and/or wound/kill (and/or Heal) them while buried are huge. All in all, while I agree with your overall point about card access, I think that the general power and synergy of the crew make up for it. That is my take with my limited experience anyway. ---------- Post added at 11:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 AM ---------- By the way, it's pretty funny to have two void wretched in melee. "I give you fast!" "No! I give you fast!"

Option #1 is pretty much how I imagine it. In my first beta game I played Somer vs Misaki with no upgrades and Somer won with a little support so I know he can hold his own when in close. I figure a group containing Somer, Lenny, a hog whisperer and a hauler in fairly close proximity will be pretty daunting for any form of frontal assault. I'll need to be careful in a lot of cases depending on the opponent as it might prove easy to pick off the Hauler. Mostly however, I just want to get to the point in game where Somer can say in his best Mr. Burns voice "Release the Pigs"

Has anyone tried this yet? If so how did it go? What did you take? and other such questions? I have been looking at the following 50SS list but have not put it on the table yet. I am not sure how effective it will be, but it looks like it might be fun. Somer: Dirty Cheater, Con o' Beans, Pig Feed 2 Skeeters Lenny: I'll Love it and Pet it... Hog Whisperer Slop Hauler Warpig 3x Piglets Cache - 6SS A second Hauler might be needed which would probably either drop both skeeters or 1 Skeeter and a Piglet. The plan would be to advance up the board creating piglets and tossing feed at anyone who came too close.

I would love to see a release date list, or even a release order. Of course none of it would havew to be solid, but just give an idea on when things might be availible.

James, Why exactly do you need our info? We placed orders that included all relevant info. You should have it on hand. If you want to give us a special promo bonus that is great, but I wont be emailing to ask for any favors from you. -Derk

Add my name to the pile of unhappy ex-customers of FRP. They did manage to get me my rulebook, but here I am a couple of weeks later with no miniatures. For those of you who ordered off Ebay, I recommend negative (or at least neutral) feedback.