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Sounds good to me!! Great list.

Due to having "too many fingers in too many pies" and there being lots of new stuff coming out that I've got my eye on (Hamelin master - yes please!!)... I am selling this crew on eBay. :afro: Not gonna put an link in, as it probably violates forum policy, so you'll have to search for it if you're interested.

Out of interest, will there be another/alternative sculpt of Hamelin in his master form; or do we continue to use the current model but with shiny new rules?

TBH, Som'er already has a Cache of '0' and a control hand cap of 5 cards... so for Henchmen to be not-as-powerful, they'd have to be seriously gimped!!

Well, it has hit the Errata page now. *sigh* In my worst case scenario I'd expected a "place Levi in base contact and sacrifice the Waif" type deal; this replace malarkey is going to slow Levi down to a crawl and make his turn extremely predictable (lots of walking and trying to make Waifs from corpse tokens!!). Urgh. Either that, or because my Waifs are positioned so that Levi can actually get stuck in next turn, someone will just kill them off and spank Levi; I already have to contend with very little scenery when I face some of my shootier opponents. I might have to reserve Levi for when the table is ultra-dense with terrain now.

I would just like to say that: a.) This errata seems fair enough, no complaints here as I've only ever dragged SPA's with other SPA's anyway. b.) It's starting to p**s me off a bit now, all this "secret" errata that is floating around and not making it into the errata PDF or the "extra errata" thread in the rules forum. Can we please have updated rules ASAP, without having to learn about them on a card or a off-hand comment by a Marshal. AFAIK there are still outstanding bits of errata for Leveticus that was mentioned, well, months ago now, which still haven't surfaced!!

Urgh, I have Bad Juju in my Zoraida crew and I have to say, I'm not a fan. He's just over-costed for a slooooow, no-melee-expert, only-hard-to-wound-1 model; that costs you an extra 2 soul stones to use his "special ability". I'd much rather take the Hooded Rider... when it comes out.

I find this odd considering that I too have a mini Feldherr case for my Malifaux and everything that's on a 30mm base fits in perfectly; and I have all sorts of models from different crews, some perched on quite tall micro-art studio bases!! (EDIT:) When I say they fit perfectly, I think this is in fact what you are calling "squish into the foam" as I am always after cases where the miniatures are held rigid in the foam and have no room to rattle about. They do indeed squish into the foam a bit, to keep them still in transport. I picked up the version of this case that is double thickness, and the bottom part is full of diced foam to keep my Desolation Engine, Bad Juju, Killjoy, etc. large 50mm/40mm models.

Well, to quote The Dude: "That's, just like, your opinion man!"

Regarding SPA's: I think they are indeed rubbish unless you commit to using them. If you take 4 of them, then on the first turn your can usually drag them across the board and drop a Desolation Engine on the opponent - with a reactivate off Alyce this can be devastating!! You've then got to work on creating more SPA's ASAP, so that once the Engine dies and poops out 2 SPA's, you have more nearby than can combine into another Engine. If you nimmy around just taking a couple of SPA's at the start, or none at all, then you'll struggle to create an Engine and the SPA's on their own are rubbish. When I build, I either go 4x SPA from the start or none at all!! Leveticus works with his own stuff or with Resurrectionist stuff just as well as each other TBH and there's no "correct" way to build his lists. I've had lots of success with Necropunks and Flesh Constructs as much as SPA's and the Engine. In answer to your question, in 25SS Alyce is a decent heavy hitter at range, and along with Leveticus provides all the punch you may need - meaning you can fill out the rest of the crew with manoeuvrable models to capture objectives, etc.

He does death!! He does death, buddy! *Ahem* Anyhoo, now that that is out of the way. Leveticus is like an alternative take on a Resurrectionist master, mixed in a little with some Arcanist style aggressive spell slinging. He's big on ranged spell damage, but in an odd way that often directly causes wounds (no damage flips) and circumvents things like armour. He also reanimates things, but again, he does it by killing things or making his minions reanimate stuff... by killing things. He even kills himself; and loves it!! So when I said he does death, I wasn't lying.

Well, others will no doubt disagree with me here (and they're probably much more experienced Neverborn players so you should probably listen to them - I only play Zoraida in terms of Neverborn masters) but you should probably just take-it-easy and jump in with the Crew Box. You get three Silurids and Bad Juju, which comes to 25SS exactly; you'll also need to pick up a Voodoo Doll totem as she summons it for free during the game. IMO, Zoraida's crew box is themed very strongly to the Treasure Hunt or Claim Jump type scenarios, and the reason people swap out bits of it is for when you're trying to get Slaughter or Assassinate off - Zoraida can pull off the latter quite well by herself tho, by stacking the deck in her favour (with Crystal Ball) and Obeying an enemy model to attack their own master. But still... if you want punch then you'll often struggle with her crew box. Bad Juju is over-costed yeah, definitely. But this is because you're paying for him to come on anywhere on the board, and have the potential to return for a couple of soulstones. As I say, for scenarios such as Claim Jump, Treasure Hunt or Breakthrough he's great, because he can often just appear where you need him. He is, however, frightfully slow, which is why you have the zippy Silurids. Other models I have used in my Zoraida crew are Hamelin and the Gremlins/Pigs. Hamelin, for me, was a bit of a let-down - he's extremely easy to kill because of his low defence and large base and the fact he'll be up front trying to Obey things. So, I found him way too much of a hassle for 10SS, but I'll have to try him again at some point in the future, maybe in larger games where there's more stuff to distract attention from him. The Gremlins I took because they give Zoraida a ranged option (12") and you can negate their bad aim and Whoops rule by Bewitching their target first (so that it can't cheat fate against them) - they proved to be quite good actually. I took the Warpig with her and I removed the Stampeding rule with Hex, so that I didn't have to worry about losing control over it, and I obeyed it quite a lot for extra charges or attacks. The Warpig is also good because it's fast, can heal itself with Eat Your Fill, has low Wp for Obeys and can remove Corpse/Scrap counters.

Leveticus isn't actually very hard to play once you get his order of operations down; when you've had a few games with him, he just "clicks" and makes sense. The errata that he's had, if you notice, have all been to make him continue playing the ways he always has. I.e. Desolation and Death's Lessons could always kill him - the errata just made it more explicit. Judging the comments made by Weird Sketch in this thread, Eternally Shackled is about to get some errata that will make it play similarly/the same as how many of us have been playing it anyway. I'd say that Leveticus is actually one of the most solidly designed masters... especially when I compare him to my other two crews, Zoraida and Som'er Teeth, who've changed quite drastically in many areas!!

The same reason I wear black shoes I guess - it goes with any other colour.

*head a splode* I think I'll avoid playing Levi until this new errata then. All very confusing at the moment! (Place... place where!?)