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@Ikvar - sorry for stealing your thread, but I do enjoy this discussion. @SpiralngCadavr - ok, let me try to transfer my thoughts on miniatures contests into the photography realm (I'm not an expert in photography, sorry if my comparison is slightly off). Let's imagine a portrait photo contest. You find a model with blond hair. You make a nice portrait. You pay attention to the lighting, angle, cropping and everything that is important for a good photography. You take this high quality work (proving your technical skills and artistic approach) to that contest. Then you find out that judges have omitted your work because they don't like blondes. No other specific reason. So ask yourself - should you be punished for picking a blonde or rewarded for choosing a brunette? And that's what I'm talking about. I haven't said a thing about who's voting (pro painters, amateurs, gamers, our grandmothers, neighbours, bus drivers...); I haven't said a thing about comparing two works of a similar quality, where you indeed need to find something to pick the better one. All I'm saying is that I find it surprising that entries in a miniatures painting contest are dismissed by judges (voters) only because they don't like that particular miniature, not because of technical or artistic merits. I hope that no one felt offended with my posts. I'm really not trying to attack anyone, just trying to understand where other people are coming from.

that's exactly what I've said earlier, Gujozec - some may be discouraged from entering next contests

because some people prefer to have their work judged by quality of a paintjob, not sculpt

actually, if you read the description of a category, it is perfectly eligible frankly, this kind of approach may discourage quite a few people from entering next contests.

I've picked dmeep's quote just because it was the first I found, but I'm actually replying to the whole "don't-like-the-sculpt" faction Aren't you guys missing the concept of a painting contest? It's about painting, right? Picking the "right" mini for a competition is of course important. If you suck at freehands, get a mini without large flat surfaces. If you're a master of precision and patience, find Klocke's sculpt with hundred buckles and small details. If you know you excel at weathered metals, find a sculpt to show off that skill. So on, so forth. Some sculpt may be too busy thus too difficult to paint. Other may be too simple to present all your skills. But, I strongly reject the not-my-style argument. It is obvious, that you are always biased as a judge and your personal preferences will have an impact on your voting (at least at the subconsciousness level). However, if you know you are not voting just because you don't like this particular sculpt... wow... As a judge of the few most important contests in Poland (GDs, Hussars...) I can't imagine myself allowing my personal preferences to influence my decisions that much. Let's say I don't like historical models (not true btw). Or I don't like Wyrd minis (not true). Or I don't like NMM (not true again). Shall I reject all Wyrd minis, historical models and any miniature painted in NMM style just because I don't like them?

Best of Show indeed congrats!

We have a new sponsor and a big prize for a winner! CMON will provide a return air ticket to Crystal Brush 2012 for a winner of Hussar 2011! yeah, come and get it!

If anyone feels like reading the report from the last year's edition - here it is: http://chestofcolors.com/hussar-2010-report/ Maybe it will make you come this year We do hope to see and meet you there Here is the announcement with additional details at Chest of Colors: http://chestofcolors.com/hussar-2011-miniature-painting-competition/ If you have any questions, I’ll be happy to help

http://en.hussar.eu/ „HUSSAR” PAINTING COMPETITION RULES I. GENERAL RULES 1. Submissions: 1.Painter can submit his works in any number of categories, though no more than 1 entry in any category. 2.Painters can submit their works only. Team works or submitting works on behalf of other painters will not be accepted. 3.It is allowed to submit own sculpts and converted entries. 4.All submissions need to be painted. 5.ompatibility with gaming rules is not required. Compatibility with rulesets will not be judged. 6.It is allowed to submit works comprising of models and products of different manufacturers. Models of different manufacturers may be combined to create a single submission. 7.Works which already took gold/silver/bronze in other competitions will not be accepted. 8.All entries are submitted at the submitter’s risk. 9.By submitting an entry painter confirms approval of the rules and certifies that submitted entries are his/her. 2. Disqualifications: 1.Submitting an entry breaching the rules will cause disqualification of all works of the painter. 2.Submitting a team work or work of other painters will cause disqualification of all works of the painter and ban for all future editions of the competition. 3.Disqualification can happen after the results announcement, if evidence is found. 4.Disqualified painter is no longer entitled to any rewards received. 5.Disqualification may cause changes of winners and awards. 3. Judging: 1.Works shall be judged by jury members only. 2.Entries shall be judged on modelling and painting merits, creativity, originality and overall effect. 3.Proper workmanship is required from all honoured works. Coherency of used models and bases is required from all honoured works in Diorama category. 4.The first judging phase will be selection of honoured works, which will be awarded with a finalist diploma. 5.The second judging phase is a final, when 3 winning entries shall be selected. Winners will receive statues (gold, silver, bronze). 6.The third judging stage is selection of the overall winner (“Best of Show”). This entry will be awarded with a diploma and statue. 7.The additional award (“Junior” diploma) will be provided for the best work submitted by a painter born in 1995 or younger. 8.Judges’ decisions are definite, the only possible exception are changes caused by a disqualification. 9.Prizes may be provided by the organiser for winners and honoured painters. 10.Prizes may also be provided for randomly selected competitors, which were not awarded by judges. 4. Categories: 1.Painter shall declare which category a work is being cntered to. 2.Judges are entitled to move any work to another category if they find it more appropriate. 3.Judges are entitled to join different categories, if low number of submissions might cause poor competition level. 4.If any painter has more than 1 entry in any category due to judges decision (check item I.4.2 and I.4.3 above), only 1 entry shall be subject to judging as per judges’ decision. All other works are shown in a category, but are effectively not taking part in the competition. II. CATEGORIES 1. Single model – fantasy: 1.This category is for fantasy models and historical models (before 1914). 2.Submission shall be a single model on foot in 32mm scale or smaller, size comparable to human models. 3.Model shall be based. 4.Any base shape is allowed, its size should not be bigger than 10x10cm or diameter of 10cm. 2. Single model – SF: 1.This category is for science-fiction models and historical (after 1914). 2.Submission shall be a single model on foot in 32mm scale or smaller, size comparable to human models. 3.Model shall be based. 4.Any base shape is allowed, its size should not be bigger than 10x10cm or diameter of 10cm. 3. Large model: 1.This category is for models in 54mm scale or bigger, size comparable to human models; war machines or vehicles including any crew. 2.This category is also for big models in smaller scales, if their size is comparable to models described in item 1. 3.Cavalry models, bikes etc. are also eligible for this category. 4.Busts in comparable scale shall be entered in this category. 5.Model shall be based. 6.Bases are not required for war machines and vehicles, unless there is separate crew included (e.g. cannon and crew). 7.Any base shape is allowed, its size should not be bigger than 20x20cm or diameter of 20cm, unless the model’s size requires a bigger base. 4. Diorama: 1.Work shall consist of at least 1 model on a scenic base. 2.This category is also for groups of models forming units. 3.It is allowed to mix models with different type, size and equipment to form a group of models. It is also allowed to mix models on foot with cavalry, as well as models of different manufacturers. Units need to look coherent though. 4.Size and shape of the scenic base are not limited anyhow. 5.Story presented on a diorama, integration of models with other models and with a scene, as well as interaction between models shall be subject to judging. 6.Units shall be placed on a base to make handling easier, no matter what formation they adapt. III. ANNEX examples of entries legitimate for different categories Single model – fantasy: Warhammer orcs, Confrontation dwarfs, Foundry pirates, Black Scorpion Miniatures cowboys. Single model – SF: Warhammer 40.000 space marines, Inifinity humans, Black Scorpion Miniatures US marines, Foundry Wehrmacht model. Large model: Warhammer 40.000 dreadnoughts, Warhammer trolls , Mantic Games cavalry, Dust Tactics mechas, dragons, historical models in 54mm scale or bigger. Diorama: Warhammer 40.000 space marines unit, pirate band comprising models from different companies, developed diorama with one model, huge battle scene. Downloadable entry form (will be available at the contest too) - http://en.hussar.eu/do-pobrania

Happy Birthday to both Nathan and Wyrd

nah, it's a strange mix of resin and plastic

6mm? in that case it is a huuge tank, or just a pre-production prototype. It seems too big for that scale.

nope, it's a new version of one of their oldest DHL minis: same name, same sculptor

oh my, it is wyrd forum indeed Skya - I have not migrated, but wanted to give my opinion on IP rules I do hope though to post some more here, especially when I paint something Wyrd GreyHorde - yup, that's me