Malifauxcurr Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I know this has been asked before but I couldn't find an official ruling from anyone who has actually worked with the new scuplts. With Wyrd's new ABS plastics, what type of glue is best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forar Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I'm curious about this as well. I've been using Gale Force 9's hobby glue, which says on the bottle that it's good for metal and plastic models alike, but as a newcomer to table top miniatures games, it was a big thing for me to even start assembling/painting figures, so changing to a new material does have me curious what I'll have to change about my (admittedly burgeoning) technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Fellas in the office seem to like Guerrilla Glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malifauxcurr Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Fellas in the office seem to like Guerrilla Glue. Really? Doesn't that tend to expand and foam up at the seams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamwyrd Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There is a gorilla super glue that doesn't foam up. I love and will always use Zap-a-Gap, it works wonders for me. People complain about the easy apply nozzle but if you keep it clean and make sure you close the glue it wont get clogged up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Fellas in the office seem to like Guerrilla Glue. This is the only superglue I use for models now. It's a high impact glue, so I haven't had a model fly apart when hitting the ground. In my experience it also stays where I want it, rather than getting everywhere. It's thicker like a gel superglue, without the brittleness issues I find in gels. I DO still use plastic weld, Testors makes a great glue container with a sweet nozzle. Yeah... it sounds like I was trying to chat up glue now :/ Edited August 10, 2012 by Ciaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirarii Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I use the same glue I use for metal minis on plastics. Super glue is nice because if you ever need to break the mini apart, or it falls and breaks, it will usually come apart at the seams, rather than random bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I am hoping the models come on sprus because them you can use the extra plastic to test a few glues out. Plastic glue with its heat bond is really awesome if it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolWithTheFez Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I am hoping the models come on sprus... They do. http://www.wyrd-games.net/entry.php?224-Pre-Gen-Con-Photo-Tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 My research into ABS is that 'normal' plastic glue won't work, it'll have to be super glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamwyrd Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Ya its not potent enough to melt the ABS plastic due to its higher dense plastic. At least it wont melt/bond the plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRC Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 It's not potency or density that are the real problems, it's whether the solvents in your glue react properly with the material. I've been searching on the web for this for a while. I've heard pure acetone recommended, which is an interesting but kinda crazy idea. Also "Plastic Weld" (example) has been recommended. There also seems to be some liquid glue that will do the trick. ABS is a well known and popular plastic, you might find that labels will tell you if the glue will work on it. (note that ABS is not polystyrene.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 hi all! Official answer time! I've just been working with this stuff a ton, and having a ton of conversations with my manufacturer about chemical makeup of plastics...so at the moment my head is full of all this. If you see my last blog post, our plastic is actually NOT 100% ABS (check my blog for more details), however, being an ABS mixture means that it is in fact denser than most of your standard poly products. Plastic glue WILL work on it, but I found that it's best to chat with your local hobby store expert to find a plastic glue which is the most aggressive available. I've actually got about 4-5 options and testing them out, to see if one does work noticeably better than another. We also know gorilla glue works nicely as well, although it doesn't bond the plastic like a plastic glue, it's a very very high quality super glue (not talking about the standard yellowy wood-glue-like stuff). Note also that plastic glue is pretty useless sticking plastic to metal, so if you have base inserts, for example, go with the super glue. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks for the detailed reply Eric. Looks like the Europeans might have to do some experimenting ourselves (as I've not heard of Gorilla glue). Wonder if I can get our materials lab at work interested once my models arrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierowmaniac Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks for the detailed reply Eric. Looks like the Europeans might have to do some experimenting ourselves (as I've not heard of Gorilla glue). Wonder if I can get our materials lab at work interested once my models arrive? Hobby craft have it. http://direct.hobbycraft.co.uk/products-Gorilla-Glue-60ml_345239.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hobby craft have it. http://direct.hobbycraft.co.uk/products-Gorilla-Glue-60ml_345239.htm I don't get out much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malifauxcurr Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 hi all! Official answer time! I've just been working with this stuff a ton, and having a ton of conversations with my manufacturer about chemical makeup of plastics...so at the moment my head is full of all this. If you see my last blog post, our plastic is actually NOT 100% ABS (check my blog for more details), however, being an ABS mixture means that it is in fact denser than most of your standard poly products. Plastic glue WILL work on it, but I found that it's best to chat with your local hobby store expert to find a plastic glue which is the most aggressive available. I've actually got about 4-5 options and testing them out, to see if one does work noticeably better than another. We also know gorilla glue works nicely as well, although it doesn't bond the plastic like a plastic glue, it's a very very high quality super glue (not talking about the standard yellowy wood-glue-like stuff). Note also that plastic glue is pretty useless sticking plastic to metal, so if you have base inserts, for example, go with the super glue. Thanks! Thank you Eric, that's exactly what I was looking for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Also note, you'll have a lot of extra plastic in the sprues, so once you get them, I suggest you use that to test out to see what works best on our plastics, and with your skills/ventilation/patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 o.0 I love models that come on sprues for some reason...less chance of missing parts and the spare plastic can be used for terrain scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirarii Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 GW uses ABS though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 GW uses ABS though. GW uses polystyrene to the best of my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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