Jewomie Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 I've seen some really great work lately with the watter effects, and i was wanting just a bit of advice. i have almost an entire crew who i'd like to add watter effects to their bases. Now, most of these i have taken care to leave very clear places to pour it, and dammed it on all sides, but that only looks good on so many before you just need to go somewhere else with it. So, how do you guys (and gals) get the water effects to not run off the side of the base when pouring it? I want (for instance) one model to be standing about ankle deep in water, but the base only has dirt and rocks on about 2/3 of the sides. I thought about plasticard or wax paper, but i am afraid the water would stick to it. For reference, i am using the regualr woodland scenics water effect in the clear bottle that is super runny, and i also have the thinker white stuff in the squeezy bottle that dries mostly clear for the "rapid water" look, or "ice". any suggestions for something i could use to dam the water that wouldn't stick? thank you all in advance! (Marcus thanks you too...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Wax paper should work. Plasticard would work as well but you want to hit it with some pam cooking spray first. Since you are basically just molding something the trick is to just have releasing agent present. Which is what the Pam acts as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 the resin won't get stuck to the plastic from a blister / clam (wyrd).. anyway, I'm in a bit of rush at the moment, will write in more detail tomorrow (if you can wait that long ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guild Monkee Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Check out the downloads section, if I remember correctly, one of the Wyrd Chronicles has a tutorial and how to use resin on bases (they use it for ice but the method should be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewomie Posted April 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 wow, thank you everyone! i am going to attempt this in the next day or two, keep an eye on Rebeccajo and i's paint log, and i'll post the results! :D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Wyrd Chronicles 1 has a great toot on how to do this (look for the Iceman Cometh article). Aside from that I would recommend for models that will be standing in deep water (like swamps and such) that you cut out the top of the bases and glue on either some plasticard or blister packaging underneath the rim. Use the Woodland scenics Water Effects (squeeze Bottle) to seal the bottom then pour the Realistic Water in (this is how I have done most of my swamp denizens). This is a far easier (quicker method) than trying to do it above the rim. Another product that you might try though (if going the above the rim route) is the Woodland Scenics E-Z Water. It is a hot product so will dry very quickly however it does shrink a bit, has a slightly yellow tint (great for swamp water) and may peel the paint from the model as it drys if not sealed well (using the WS Water effect to create a barrier helps a lot). You'll still need to create a dam from clear plastic (recommend using the blister material) but you wont have to have it sit for 24 hours and pour multiple thin layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) well, the guys basicly said everything Wyrd chronicles 1 is the thing you want (so it would seem to me). this is what (how) I did my river on the modular table I built for myself (the detailed description could be found in Demonn's Lair) ..... Puting in the Resin! First of all glue some partitions to the modules with the river. I used the plastic foil used for overhead projectors (if some of you remember them ). it is good because it is really smooth and can easily be removed once the resin is dry, and most importantly the resin doesn't stick to it. Then glue some vegetation on the riverbed.. once the glue on the foil is set I placed some Vallejo extra heavy gel around the foil to seal it completely. let it set for a day or two... Then comes the pouring in of the first layer of Resin. I used Gedeo Crystal Resin dyed Pebeo Vitrail Emerald. After drying put in another layer (this time with less colour) and another after that (without colour). The swamp is done much the same Finally your board should look like this (when you add some terrain on it ) it is a bit larger scale than what you wanted but the basic principle is the same... anyway, I hope this helps.. Edited April 10, 2012 by Demonn Agram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 At the risk of thread stealing... That is some nice terrain you got there Demon Agram (extra points for making it modular). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklemonkey Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 A question if I may, still well on topic. I only started using water effects the other day (Vallejo) and texture wise I had to spoon it in as opposed to the runny texture mentioned above. Am I using it wrong or is it just the nature of the brand I was using? Any better suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) depends on what you're using. Vallejo has several products: Extra heavy gel - which is a white paste like substance that comes in a jar andwhich dries transparent Still Water - it's a clear liquid (little denser than water) in a bottle by your description you're using the gel... I use it just for the top layers of my water features - especially for the running waters like rivers or seaside.. the still water is great for bases since it is a one component fluid that dries relatively quickly (24hours give or take), can be tinted with vallejo colours, and it can be poured easily in small quantities... Edited April 11, 2012 by Demonn Agram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklemonkey Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I think it has a different label and it doesn't say extra heavy gel but that still looks like the stuff. I will look into getting that other bottle too then thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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