Angor Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Same as last time, once Alex or Dan inform me you have paid you will go on the list.tourny pack.pdf Edited February 15, 2012 by Angor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wait so there a best sportsman prize but sportsmanship also decides the overall winner? Same for painting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angor Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Well it seems that despite my initial enthusiasm I'm afraid it's unlikely I'll come to this. It's a real shame as I enjoyed last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmdown Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Are you kidding me? There's a lot of people who've planned weekends around this, despite you not giving us a rules pack until now. And now you give us this abomination. People dont want to play campaign rules and comedy games at tournaments. People want to play tournaments where they play Malifaux against eachother as it's written in the rulebook. Whilst everyone is pulling out of your tournament and cancelling their hotels, at least you can be glad of one thing; you might have finally been the guys that made us start the ball rolling on comp in the UK. Congrats. Hope your tourney is good. Edited February 15, 2012 by Calmdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Are you kidding me? There's a lot of people who've planned weekends around this, despite you not giving us a rules pack until now. And now you give us this abomination. People dont want to play campaign rules, comedy games, or Malifaux with a twist. People want to play tournaments where they play Malifaux against eachother as it's written in the rulebook. Whilst everyone is pulling out of your tournament and cancelling their hotels, at least you can be glad of one thing; you might have finally been the guys that made us start the ball rolling on comp in the UK. Congrats. Hope your tourney is good. Maybe this won't be my first ever Malifaux Tournament...while it all sounds fun, I just want to play games how the rules write it to be played but with a competitive edge...I don't think we are asking for much really.... It's a shame in all honesty I was really excited for this Oh well back to the calender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverata Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Maybe this won't be my first ever Malifaux Tournament...while it all sounds fun, I just want to play games how the rules write it to be played but with a competitive edge...I don't think we are asking for much really.... It's a shame in all honesty I was really excited for this Oh well back to the calender Same. I won't attend something so far straying from at least the basic principles of malifaux. Originality is cool, but a mix over two days is suicide It's a shame, was looking forward to it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yup. Cool. Can't make the event, but I can support the "all in" scoring system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 It's your event so you can run it any way you like. Not every event needs to be exactly the same format but maybe this takes your event out of the "tournament" catagory and into the "hobby event" catagory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think as a tournament pack it's not good, as a hobby weekend pack it's great. I couldn't make it one way or another but all the best Tom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) No restrictions on schemes? Sweet. Every day I'm taking Holdout/Breakthrough/Bodyguard/Kil Protegee. And although it says Fixed Master, theres no mention of fixed crew. Woop! Somer is playable again! Edited February 15, 2012 by Dumb Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmdown Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 No restrictions on schemes? Sweet. Every day I'm taking Holdout/Breakthrough/Bodyguard/Kil Protegee. Every day I'm shufflin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Every day I'm shufflin' Every day I'm shufflin' a fate deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Shame I've a show on the 31st, but thems the breaks. Next time............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike3838 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 People dont want to play campaign rules and comedy games at tournaments. People want to play tournaments where they play Malifaux against eachother as it's written in the rulebook. While I can understand your frustration in part, I can't get behind this part for a couple of reasons: 1) The recent Masters tourney didn't play anything like "as it's written in the rulebook" and everyone had a lot of fun. 2) There's a very definite opportunity for a "different" type of tournament, in a non-competitive setting. There's been requests for something more narrative based ever since the rankings debates. That being said, the problems with this pack are quite clear: 1) Equal weight given to sports score as gaming? Seriously? People sign up with the purpose off playing. That should (obviously) be the focus. 2) 2nd day allocated to unspecified "fun" organised by "Dan". If I don't know Dan, and you won't tell me what he has lined up, am I really going to spend money (and a whole weekend) committing to come along and risk wasting both? 3) Drastic unexpected shift of rulespack from the last one (which everyone enjoyed). People signed up expecting more of the same but now find it's not what they wanted. Still, kudos for organising something new. You're likely to attract a whole different group of players (and have less people travelling to the event from afar), but I hope it's a success. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackanory Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Graaah! Change is baaaad!Seriously, some of you guys need to lighten up and remember that Malifaux's a game, played with toys, by geeks.I'll be there with my toys, geeking out and trying my best to win the sportsmanship prize! (so I won't be playing Hamelin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicFOX Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The issue here isn't so much the pack itself as it is the lack of signaling this was what was going to happen until this stage of proceedings. People have made travel plans, taken time off work and booked hotel rooms to attend what they thought would be a two day tournament. These people have now found out 6 weeks before the event that this is a day of hobby gaming and a day of other activities. I've often said there's no wrong way to play Malifaux, and a hobby weekend like this one may very well be fun, but that's not what people thought they were getting when they decided to part with their hard earned cash. That being said I hope the event is a success and wish Angor and Cut'n'Thrust all the best with it. It's a great store run by great people and I'm looking forward to getting to a tournament there in the not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angor Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wow we didnt realise that everyone was so concerned about being scored for their sportsmanship! Me and the C&T guys have revised the tourny pack which should be far more palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The issue here isn't so much the pack itself as it is the lack of signaling this was what was going to happen until this stage of proceedings. People have made travel plans, taken time off work and booked hotel rooms to attend what they thought would be a two day tournament. These people have now found out 6 weeks before the event that this is a day of hobby gaming and a day of other activities. I've often said there's no wrong way to play Malifaux, and a hobby weekend like this one may very well be fun, but that's not what people thought they were getting when they decided to part with their hard earned cash. That being said I hope the event is a success and wish Angor and Cut'n'Thrust all the best with it. It's a great store run by great people and I'm looking forward to getting to a tournament there in the not too distant future. This, very much this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som'er Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I dont think you needed to change the ruleset but I will still be doing both days and pubbing too. Do you have any new 'specialist' boards? See you soon guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wow, missed this thread - wtf? I'll likely come down to this rather than the Liverpool event as it'll be a great chance to play new people - just need to check hotels and the like first. Also, can someone send me the first rules pack so I can chuckle at what caused everyone throw toys out of prams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike3838 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I didn't save it, but the first pack was basically:Take day 2 of new pack and put is as day 1Day 2 = day of fun/potentially narrative games but no tourneyIt wasnt a terrible pack. I think it would have been fine, but for the surprise factor. I hope all this doesn't put anyone off running less-competitive events in the future!Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicFOX Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 +1 Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut and Thrust Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Wow looks like our local henchman has caused a bit of an Angorlanche. Geddit?! We have had a chat about it and have had a revision of the rules pack based on the feedback from you guys on the forum! Sooo this is where we are at... Day 1- A Gaining Grounds rankings tournament. Check the updated rulespack for details. Day 2- A day of gaming using the Malifaux ruleset. Obviously those wishing to attend both days are more than welcome. The coffee will be fresh, the shelves will be well stocked, the terrain will be better than ever and we will be offering a 15% discount all weekend so make sure you pre order anything you want to avoid disappointment (this discount is not only on Malifaux but everything in store all weekend)! Do you guys want doughnuts? At Cut and Thrust the focus is on providing a great venue and gaming experience and to do this we listen to you guys, the community, (un)fortunately we run dozens of tournaments a year and can’t be as active as we would like to be on every community forum for every system, hence picking this up so late. You guys being vocal is important to us as is being constructive about what we do, so let’s get a few more of these amazing events under our belts and keep improving them. Let us keep it on topic and fun! Hope to see you all here, Alex. Edited February 15, 2012 by Cut and Thrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angor Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wow looks like our local henchman has caused a bit of an Angorlanch. Geddit?! I would have gone with "Looks like he made everyone pretty Angory" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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