Adran Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Tournement organisers call, but on something like this which will be availible to every master, I would wait untill at least half the masters have access to them. After all, none have yet been officially released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Personally I'd love to see avatars allowed (in general, not just at Northampton) with a relaxing of the proxy rule for models prior to their release. But it's down to each TO and their event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&TBoy Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Tournement organisers call, but on something like this which will be availible to every master, I would wait untill at least half the masters have access to them. After all, none have yet been officially released. Yet some were made available and some people have obtained them, why shouldn't they be able to use them? There official wyrd models so are no different from anything else out. Should we prevent people using the undead or hooded rider figures because the pale and mechanical rider have yet to be released? Im not looking to cause trouble just putting across my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I thought the restriction was for only officially released models to be used? If it has been "officiall" released, then fair game. The Avatars some people got from GenCon early availability arent considered Official releases yet, so would not have thought they would be allowed. Afterall, only a select few people have access to them and they are not yet on open release and readily available to purchase. Just my thoughts on the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Yet some were made available and some people have obtained them, why shouldn't they be able to use them? There official wyrd models so are no different from anything else out. Should we prevent people using the undead or hooded rider figures because the pale and mechanical rider have yet to be released? Im not looking to cause trouble just putting across my views. honestly I agree with you dude, if they have the official model and stat card its legal (so says the gaining grounds). but it is the TO's decision at the end of the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 The official wording of the Gaining Ground document says "...nor can a player enter a tournament with a model that has not yet been released to the general public." Not sure how that works in this case, but I would have thought that since GenCon was a limited release and the Avatar's are not readily available to the general public, that Avatar's would not be allowed until such time as there release date comes round, at which point they are then available to the general public. Do I understand that correctly? If im wrong then that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 The official wording of the Gaining Ground document says "...nor can a player enter a tournament with a model that has not yet been released to the general public." Not sure how that works in this case, but I would have thought that since GenCon was a limited release and the Avatar's are not readily available to the general public, that Avatar's would not be allowed until such time as there release date comes round, at which point they are then available to the general public. Do I understand that correctly? If im wrong then that's fine. guess it can be argued either way... they were for available for everyone as a pre-release... I am not sure myself now... I guess in that case that would even disallow dead doxeys, and the drowned from the dead justice box too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't really mind either way whether we use Dead/Avatars. Some may have an issue though as the models not officially released, and some possibly couldnt afford to order online and pay x amount of postage and import tax... So down to Dave as TO to make the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgrima Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't see how a model that was sold by Wyrd on their website is anything but an official release. If the rule says not available to the general public then I can respect if that is held up however I believe the Sonnia avatar was down as September so by all of those rules she should be able to use. I would unfortunately have to agree though if that is the reasoning for not allowing avatars the Dead Justice models would have to be banned as ressers until the others are available and they can be considered proxies. However when the book is released everyone will have access to the rules for any of the Gencon released models/avatars and I believe that all of the cards are the exact wording from the books. Its always up to the TO to decide for their own tournament of course but it would be nice if Wyrd could let us know if they consider the Gencon models as released or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&TBoy Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Its always up to the TO to decide for their own tournament of course but it would be nice if Wyrd could let us know if they consider the Gencon models as released or not. I would welcome a clarification on that, and would abide by it either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Bloody hell - you wander away from your thread for a day and it all goes tornado. In a good way mind. Anyway to clarify things. As far as I'm concerned all Gencon models are legal (so you could take Dead Doxy if you have the Dead Justice set). The reasoning behind no avatars, and this is purely my decsion as TO, is that until everyone has had the chance for a few games with avatars and we can all understand what impact they can have on the game, we should omit them from a tournament. I also took into account the limited number of avatars available, but that wasn't the prime consideration. Anyway, a few more sign-ups today, and hopefully we'll see people playing with some different crews (except Neverata of course...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverata Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Anyway, a few more sign-ups today, and hopefully we'll see people playing with some different crews (except Neverata of course...). I'm consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgrima Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 The reasoning behind no avatars, and this is purely my decsion as TO, is that until everyone has had the chance for a few games with avatars and we can all understand what impact they can have on the game, we should omit them from a tournament. We allowed Haemlin without testing and still allow him haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuit Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it's not too late, I'd like to book the last two places for me and my girlfriend Andrea.. Problem is I can't pay you until Monday (when I get paid). Is this cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it's not too late, I'd like to book the last two places for me and my girlfriend Andrea.. Problem is I can't pay you until Monday (when I get paid). Is this cool? Welcome on board. Are you travelling far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 If anyone else is interested in entering I'll see if I can increase the limit to 20 places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Confirmed that we can now take 20 players. If anyone wants to buy any specific models or boxes on the day, can I suggest that you pre-order them at least a week in advance. Give Carl a ring on 07931 775263. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgrima Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Can you put me down Alan Smith and Chris Greenhill G&T Boy Will send the payment when I get home tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Will do. Just 2 places left now, and only 3 weeks! I'd better get organised! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgrima Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Payment sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redben Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I will take one of those remaining places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Hi guys. If you've not already paid can you do so by the weekend please so I can buy some more prizes! If that's a problem for you, drop me a pm. And just a reminder that there's still 1 place left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Thanks for the reminder I almost forgot about this! Payment sent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clousseau Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Next reminder to all is to send in your 55SS lists (email preferred) by next weekend. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Quick question... the 55ss lists These contain all of the models we are allowed to hire right? what about summoned models which I will summon throughout a game? (example steampunk arachnids, Mechanical doves) do I need add these to my 55ss list or are summoned models exempt from this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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