deadboy Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Well, when I compare them to ronin I just mean is it something that should be in the box but isn't. Or is it just something that you'll want if you play a certain style. Or maybe it's just a really cool model with not great rules. Knowing that it's Rare 2 and I can get both of them in one blister makes it a no brainer. On a side note, the Viktoria box has got to be the wonkiest most ineffective starter box out there. And that's counting the Somer Teeth one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLapse Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I do agree, I would have done the following for the boxset. Both Viktoria, Ronin x3 and the con. gunslinger, hans or Misaki And there you have your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I do agree, I would have done the following for the boxset. Both Viktoria, Ronin x3 and the con. gunslinger, hans or Misaki And there you have your list. I believe the Ronin came out after the box set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLapse Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 yeah but we were talking about a box set that was playable, like the onther boxsets out there you use most if not all of the models from the box in your army save the Vic box where i only use one of the pricey models in my list and leave johan and biship aside, I was talking about the best box set, with the idea of playing box vs box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 yeah but we were talking about a box set that was playable, like the onther boxsets out there you use most if not all of the models from the box in your army save the Vic box where i only use one of the pricey models in my list and leave johan and biship aside, I was talking about the best box set, with the idea of playing box vs box. Yeah I know. I was referring to why the Ronin wouldn't have been in the box. But we finally get the Leveticus box, they might do updates of boxes or provide multiple options... we'll see. I hope Wyrd takes a bit of a breather on new stuff so they can get to all the stuff they've already got planned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadboy Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I believe the Ronin came out after the box set. Well, maybe they could have waited on it like they did the Leveticus box. But I'm getting off topic. thanks for the info on the Coryphee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLapse Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Yeah, though the Vik box is an exeption to there boxsets, I dont think any other game company has done better with army boxes then wyrd. I do want them to finish the book one models before thy dive full force in book two as well, i want the hooded rider! But since they are lose with proxy models Im okay with waiting since I can proxy till its out. -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alemon Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Anyone with a better set of eyes or the book/rule card, does cassandra have a gunblade type thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 No Cassandra has a regular old (ok mayba a shiny new) sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrulz55 Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 so its a sword with a brass knuckle/halfa gear thingy? boo.... does she ad least have good stats to match her looks atleast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chev Chelios Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Does anyone know why the Performer and the Mannequin are sold together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alemon Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 They probably have abilities that play off each other...? I'm not sure. But it's probably a cool reason. I'm going to have to wait two more weeks to find out what those are, though.... D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Does anyone know why the Performer and the Mannequin are sold together? You pay 5 soul stones and get one of each when selecting crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alemon Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 You pay 5 soul stones and get one of each when selecting crew. Are they effectively one model, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chev Chelios Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 The reason I ask is the Mannequin Replacement trigger. you might need a few extra Mannequins.Albeit that trigger is going to be rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 I got my Collette at Gencon and played her in Last Scrap; she was a ton of fun. Understanding how Companion works may have let me do a little bit better, but I still managed a couple wins! I can confirm that the Mannequin and Performers are bought as a single model, but are multiple models for pretty much all other purposes. The Mannequins interactions though, are pretty much across the board applicable to Showgirls in general though, which makes things very interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magno Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Does anyone know why the Performer and the Mannequin are sold together? Because maniquins work off of any showgirl. Their triggers and links don't say "Performers", it says showgirls. So I played a few games with this crew but unfortunately it was against Lady Justice and with her blind Justice, there isn't a whole lot to do with this crew. Anyone that has abilities that say "Ignore WP duels no matter what" are going to handicap a showgirl crew. Cassandra is the main offense in this list and she can reactivate everytime a showgirl dies which is awesome. I forsee a LOT of "Breathe Fire" casting being done. I like how they designed this crew, they're showgirls and they will be doing a lot of dancing around the table. Very manouvreable crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alemon Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 So do the mannequins have the showgirl type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 So do the mannequins have the showgirl type? Indeed, as do all of the models in the theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstep Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Honestly unless you are having a brilliant game, you likely will lose at least one Mannekin before you create a new one. It's been the same way with Witchlings for me with Criid. It's what makes the game work so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 The reason I ask is the Mannequin Replacement trigger. you might need a few extra Mannequins.Albeit that trigger is going to be rare. I did a test for trying to get that trigger off. If I channelled, I was able to activate it 8 out of 10 times without using my control hand. This was with a fresh deck each time, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstep Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I guess I'm just envisioning Nino or a Mature Nephy or something killing something by the time Colette is at range 8... and I'm also ok will this vision, because I just killed, say Nino or a Mature Nephy and replaced the damage they tried to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killionaire Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The trick is going to be a bit interesting. You can play Collette in many ways from what I see. 1. Collette can be spamming Mechanical Birds who go out and magician's duel people. She can generate up to two soulstones a turn if your hand is bad, and reliably get one a turn. 2. The Corphyees can be launched up, then activate in-chain with mannequin companion, to drop both Corphyees with Cassandra right on top of an enemy. Have a Mannequin throw up the defense aura, and they're hard as hell to kill (also keep some high cards for those Corphyees!). 3. Let the enemy kill a showgirl and reactivate that Corphyee duet... or watch them not kill her, and inflict a devastating POISON4 on the paralyzed enemy from her lure... And that's just 'in-theme'. There's a ton of indirect synnergy here that's going to take a lot of time to really get a good feel for. But I'll be damned if her force doesn't have a lot of teleports, slows and paralyzes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killionaire Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Oh yeah, and one more thing. If I'm reading it right, Mannequins are Armor 3, and get an additional 2 points of damage mitigation from Object? So.... if you shoot one for 6 damage, it only takes a single point? Even armor piercing attacks don't ignore the 2 points of mitigation from Object... Basically, they need to take 3 seperate hits to die, or a direct wound-causing effect it seems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mekboyz Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Finally got my collette and friends last night! Along with the book and puppet deck of course. I love these girls already. The poison ring is so good! And the duet can do brutal things. So pumped to play them all weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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