Impact UK Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 So I have been playing a bit of Lucius in Guild and throw it would be nice to through in a couple of out of faction Mimic’s into the lists just for fun (ok maybe that’s a bit of a lie, probably looking more for models that look cool). Obviously you have the Doppelganger but I am rather underwhelmed with the model (any cool ideas on how to kit bash this would be appreciated) so what other things go well with the masked man. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haagrum Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Mr Graves and Mr Tannen are a fun pair. They look decent and work well together (but aren't required to be near each other - their triggers do the work). Mr Graves can be lethal with Debt To The Guild, and his Ruthless ability doesn't prevent Lucius from ordering him around outside his activation. Besides, who doesn't think Lucius looks good with a fence post-wielding bodyguard? I don't mind taking a Terracotta Warrior with him, but I think it's probably better in Neverborn Lucius. You might also consider taking Ferdinand Vogel, although he doesn't benefit from Lucius's aura when he turns into a werewolf. Still, he looks cool... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Must have? None. But if I had to rank them for him... 1. TC warrior- protect that thrall, switch off surprisingly loyal for something useful. 2. Beckoner- lures are good, kiting lures are better. 3. Changelings- lots of weird jank possible with these guys 4.Graves-that push is really nice and there's not a better mimic beater to get Lucius's plus flips. Likes being protected by a TC warrior. 5. Tannen- interesting control model, the third floor wars post on it said it better than I can. 6. Doppel- I know she does a lot, but I find her to eat cards badly, and Lucius needs his cards. 7. Vogel- another interesting piece. If he stayed a mimic when he switched off id be more interested. Don't bother without jury. Durable against bad opponents. 8. Candy- I've never made her work for Lucius. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 @4thstringer “Don’t bother without Jury?” Ouch, there’s an indictment—although I suppose there’s no better crew for indictments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact UK Posted June 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 18 hours ago, Haagrum said: Mr Graves and Mr Tannen are a fun pair. See that the sort of reason why I asked this question, I will look into these. 17 hours ago, 4thstringer said: Must have? None. But if I had to rank them for him... 1. TC warrior- protect that thrall, switch off surprisingly loyal for something useful. 2. Beckoner- lures are good, kiting lures are better. 3. Changelings- lots of weird jank possible with these guys 4.Graves-that push is really nice and there's not a better mimic beater to get Lucius's plus flips. Likes being protected by a TC warrior. 5. Tannen- interesting control model, the third floor wars post on it said it better than I can. 6. Doppel- I know she does a lot, but I find her to eat cards badly, and Lucius needs his cards. 7. Vogel- another interesting piece. If he stayed a mimic when he switched off id be more interested. Don't bother without jury. Durable against bad opponents. 8. Candy- I've never made her work for Lucius. Cheers, though you have made me want to get my hands on a model for Candy now (no one would ever expect her to turn up in a guild list). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xane Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 @Impact UK I have a Candy you can have if you want to run this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewrathchilde Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 I have run lawyers with him with success but usually they just don't make the cut......my problem with most of the mimics is that I have to drop something "essential" to fit them in- if I am going to take a beater (Grave, Vogel) then I have to drop something like a Thrall to fit it in and don't think it is usually worth the trade-off. Additionally for a number of them (Graves, Tannen, Doppleganger) you lose the ability to Issue Command since they aren't minions. Typically if I run mimics with him it's when I play Lucius as Neverborn and can't get Thralls and either Frank or Phiona. Usually I run one Henchman with him in Guild (Frank/Phiona/Allison Dade) and everything else is Minions so I have maximum flexibility in how/where I use Issue Command and I try to build the synergy between choices. When I look at the options available by taking mimics form other factions some of them might look good in isolation compared to some of our choices but when I look at the overall interaction in the crew and things like the ability of the Thralls to auto-pass horror duels (Commanding Presence), get an extra attack when a marker is dropped near them (which can be a by product of What Lackeys Are For or Phiona w/Transparency , which in turn also lets the Investigator do her thing and gives a push and a card I just don't see the trade-off being worth it. About the only exception is the Doppleganger. The ability to control initiative can be priceless. When I take her then I am apt to try to fit in the Terracotta as well to protect the Thralls, switch out Surprisingly Loyal for another upgrade (Secret Objectives early and then Legalese later) but generally I just stay Guild pure if I m running him as Guild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 10 hours ago, thewrathchilde said: About the only exception is the Doppleganger. The ability to control initiative can be priceless. When I take her then I am apt to try to fit in the Terracotta as well to protect the Thralls, switch out Surprisingly Loyal for another upgrade (Secret Objectives early and then Legalese later) but generally I just stay Guild pure if I m running him as Guild. That card cost though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewrathchilde Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 13 hours ago, 4thstringer said: That card cost though. that's why I pretty much only run her with Lucius in Neverborn- the Primordial Magic, Thousand Faces/Pact/Terracotta, Lelu w/Satisfying Punishment, and Thorn (the Queen's Spies) help offset that. Generally though I prefer to run him in Guild without any of the mimics from other factions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 12 hours ago, thewrathchilde said: Generally though I prefer to run him in Guild without any of the mimics from other factions. For me it largely depends on the schemes/strats. For ply, ours, and murder I prefer no mimics and run double thrall double monster hunters. For symbols I like a beckoner and a doppel to do a kiting move to get the doppel to a marker early turn 2. When I run Lucius in NB I often don't even run mimics, or if I do it's just TC and beckoners. I like nekima, rougarou, and bulltigan too much to usually have room for such things. I might bring over mounted guard, investigators, or Pathfinder though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact UK Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 On 6/16/2018 at 3:25 AM, thewrathchilde said: I have run lawyers with him with success but usually they just don't make the cut......my problem with most of the mimics is that I have to drop something "essential" to fit them in- if I am going to take a beater (Grave, Vogel) then I have to drop something like a Thrall to fit it in and don't think it is usually worth the trade-off. Additionally for a number of them (Graves, Tannen, Doppleganger) you lose the ability to Issue Command since they aren't minions. Typically if I run mimics with him it's when I play Lucius as Neverborn and can't get Thralls and either Frank or Phiona. Usually I run one Henchman with him in Guild (Frank/Phiona/Allison Dade) and everything else is Minions so I have maximum flexibility in how/where I use Issue Command and I try to build the synergy between choices. When I look at the options available by taking mimics form other factions some of them might look good in isolation compared to some of our choices but when I look at the overall interaction in the crew and things like the ability of the Thralls to auto-pass horror duels (Commanding Presence), get an extra attack when a marker is dropped near them (which can be a by product of What Lackeys Are For or Phiona w/Transparency , which in turn also lets the Investigator do her thing and gives a push and a card I just don't see the trade-off being worth it. About the only exception is the Doppleganger. The ability to control initiative can be priceless. When I take her then I am apt to try to fit in the Terracotta as well to protect the Thralls, switch out Surprisingly Loyal for another upgrade (Secret Objectives early and then Legalese later) but generally I just stay Guild pure if I m running him as Guild. Well I was not thinking tournament lists but something you drop on the table on a game night to mess with people. Though it is hard to disagree with everything you said. I am however going to look into that Terracotta/Thralls combination (why not give people another reason to hate me LoL). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorschlag Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Graves with changelings provide amazing mobility, depending on the type of crew you are running this can set up activations for vp or picking off over extended targets. This can work well with heavy hitters or a swarm of hounds (hounds with Lucius can be a beautiful thing). If you want to lock out interactions tannen and doppelganger add to this and require the above set up plus useless duplications and maybe a lawyer, the loss of mimics blessing may affect this. Candy not so much without wp reductions, terracotta warrior I still haven't mastered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact UK Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 9:28 AM, Vorschlag said: Graves with changelings provide amazing mobility, depending on the type of crew you are running this can set up activations for vp or picking off over extended targets. This can work well with heavy hitters or a swarm of hounds (hounds with Lucius can be a beautiful thing). If you want to lock out interactions tannen and doppelganger add to this and require the above set up plus useless duplications and maybe a lawyer, the loss of mimics blessing may affect this. Candy not so much without wp reductions, terracotta warrior I still haven't mastered. Sounds interesting I will look into it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.