Freikorps Specialist and Ramos

[WWHSD]

I just realized that a Freikorps Specialist can remove Slow from the spiders that Ramos summons each turn. Because they are immune to damage from  effects, the spiders would be able to remove the Slow condition without taking the damage.

I’m not sure that it’s worth bringing an 8 point model and using one its AP each turn to do it though. The  on his ranged attack might be a bit of a liability when facing an opponent thatchas obeys as well.

[dancater]

Having said that Arcanists can do some Burning and Ramos has some options in that direction.

Not sure, in fact doubt, it would be super competitive.  But think it could be interesting and fun and would not by any means be truly handicapped in a more casual style game.

[KingCrow]

If you could bring someone who has an obey to make the Specialist take the action out of activation, it could make it decent.  The only model I could think of who has an obey is Ama No Zako... which actually might not be bad to run.  Just some theory-fauxing here but if the Spiders are lowering an enemy's defense, Ama's Ml 5 isn't that bad of a detriment so she can get that 3/5/7 damage.  She has terrifying 13 (Living), can get armor +1 from the Steamfitter, is Hard to Wound and can get healing from her Ml trigger.  Not too bad.  I'm looking to actually try out Ramos for the first time in the coming months now that I have his new upgrades so maybe I'll give this a try.  Now I guess I do need Ramos, his totem and Spiders. lol.

Or has someone tried this already and has determined it's a bad idea? lol.

[WWHSD]

3 hours ago, KingCrow said:

If you could bring someone who has an obey to make the Specialist take the action out of activation, it could make it decent.  The only model I could think of who has an obey is Ama No Zako... which actually might not be bad to run. 

I'm not seeing what the Obey really gets you. Now you are using 1 AP from a 10SS model that needs an 8 or higher to have an 8SS spend 1AP to remove a condition that will get you an extra AP on two or three 4SS  models. I'm already dubious of the 8SS being spent on the Specialist spending more SS to try and make it better seems like a poor investment.

Ramos is going to cost you 8-10SS (upgrades + cache), 10 for Ama No Zaka, 8 for the Specialist, and 6 for the Steamfitter, and you are left with about enough points left for Joss, something to kill for scrap, and maybe an upgrade or two for the models that can take it. 

Maybe the Specialist might be okay in a scheme pool where you are expecting to want to remove scheme markers or when you think you'll be playing into a crew that needs corpse and scrap markers or that will be tossing out a lot of paralyze and slow. Getting the extra AP for spiders would be a thing he could do but isn't the main reason that you brought him.

[KingCrow]

Those are some great points but just an FYI, Ama's obey is a 0 AP action.   I just figured she's good for a heavy hitter and although she is missing the Armor +2 and ignoring defenses like Joss, she can hit harder, get armor +1, and heal herself. Plus she has more maneuverability with Flight than Joss.  I guess the biggest thing is not dropping that extra scrap marker.  But if you bring the Steamfitter, that a decent way to still get scrap markers. 

I could see the Specialist being used vs Ressers and such or Slow McCabe even.  Getting rid of slow on your own models is always nice too. 

[MuMantai]

You could also use the Emissarys Flesh and Metal ability, if you want to stay in faction.

[grim_stoki]

On 3/7/2018 at 2:04 PM, WWHSD said:

I just realized that a Freikorps Specialist can remove Slow from the spiders that Ramos summons each turn. Because they are immune to damage from  effects, the spiders would be able to remove the Slow condition without taking the damage.

I’m not sure that it’s worth bringing an 8 point model and using one its AP each turn to do it though. The  on his ranged attack might be a bit of a liability when facing an opponent thatchas obeys as well.

I think this is only useful if you can remove it off multiple spiders, which requires a card (8 of tomes) or a card + stone. 

Hold up their Forces seems like a good scheme for this trick.