izikial Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Hi. A freind of mine realy likes the freikorps theme but also dosnt like losing all the time. What should he get to keep a little thematic but also perform relitivly well in a freindly enviroment. He has von schill box atm and thats is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Relatively sensible in theme purchase: (also known as other models with Friekorps) Strong arm suit Hannah Lazarus Friekorps Engineer Anna Lovelace After that you could easily justify any of the outcasts or other mercs following the story in broken promises Personally I've not yet got Anna or the engineer, but the others are all decent models that at least are unlikely to be the reason you lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Here is fixed crew that won recent tournament in Poland(and is doing surprisingly well in other tournaments): 50 SS Outcasts Crew Von Schill + 4 Pool - Oath of the Freikorps (1) - Nythera Aftermath (1) - Survivalist (1) Steam Trunk (3) Hannah (10) - I Pay Better (1) Hodgepodge Emissary (10) - Conflux of Conflict (0) Freikorps Librarian (7) Freikorps Trapper (7) Freikorps Engineer (6) (exported from CrewFaux) Very good list for either supply wagons, public executions or ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribble Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cedar said: Here is fixed crew that won recent tournament in Poland(and is doing surprisingly well in other tournaments): ... Very good list for either supply wagons, public executions or ours. Emissary over Strongarm Suit? What does he bring? Also @izikial - it's worth noting the Engineer isn't being released until near the middle of the year I think... so you'll need to proxy for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadhna Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, gribble said: Emissary over Strongarm Suit? What does he bring? Also @izikial - it's worth noting the Engineer isn't being released until near the middle of the year I think... so you'll need to proxy for now. I have a better question for you: what does Strongarm even do besides being a big 10ss brick with mediocre damage? Whereas HPE does a whole lot and has a more reliable impact on the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribble Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Seadhna said: I have a better question for you: what does Strongarm even do besides being a big 10ss brick with mediocre damage? Whereas HPE does a whole lot and has a more reliable impact on the game. Well, I think it's pretty well established that SS is a great piece, especially in conjunction with VS. If you don't know why, then the forum search is your friend. I haven't seen Hodgepodge with him before, so I was genuinely curious what it does in the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 59 minutes ago, gribble said: Emissary over Strongarm Suit? What does he bring? He has nice aura that causes friendly models near him to skip randomization when shooting into engagements plus he attaches a Shirt to Von Schill few times per game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannibalBob Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 I would also look into getting the upgrades for Von Schill from the most recent book. Either through the app, buy the book, photo-copy the pages from someone else book, or buy the upgrade card pack that accompanies the book. I have not played Friekorps in a while, and I have not personally used those upgrades, but I have played the Friekorp a whole lot in both mk1 and early mk2. They are also one of my go-to crews for teaching the faction as in small games they have neat abilities but nothing complex. They are fairly straight-forward good generalists with a bit of an emphasis on durability and mobility - which is great for new players to either use or play against. But the new upgrades look pretty potent to me - especially for the combat capability of Von Schill himself. Also in the past, I found that it is still pretty effective and thematic to take some of the regular mercs. Ronin and Taelor always fit well and are all-round useful. The meta may have made them more or less useful now, I dunno. But I expect that for friendly games those models will still be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Strongarm is in fact the best tank you can hire. Hits hard in melé, with Ml 6 and 2/4/6 that can be upgraded easily in 3/5/7. It can gain to damage or ignore damage reduction. It can keep distance and shoot up to 12". The damage is not awesome (2/3/4), but can put slow on targets and su shoots with Sh7 (the only attacking stat over 6 in all the Freikorps crew). Is tough, with Def 5 and Armor +2 can deal with many attacks. But the best of him is the Augmented Jump. You can neutralize almost any troop of this kind by engaging them with something reasonably durable, but not Strongarm. He can simply charge any other side. Basically, Strongarm Suit is a tank that you can not avoid. You must destroy him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribble Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Cedar said: He has nice aura that causes friendly models near him to skip randomization when shooting into engagements plus he attaches a Shirt to Von Schill few times per game. Ah, ok, cool. I can see that being good. Will have to try it out when using a more shooting focused VS crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Yeah, Schill REALLY needs the most recent upgrades. They make a huge difference to his capability. Honestly, you can simply add either Lazarus, Hannah or Strongarm and you have a reasonable place to start that can win games. There are plenty of other units that are good additions that aren't Friekorps, but given Schill's most recent upgrade links in really well with other Friekorps, I reckon get one of those 2 models then go from there. The Friekorpsmenn are very average models. Slightly hard to take down but they don't really DO anything, which is the problem. They're not really quick enough to run schemes, outside of Schill's bubble they're only slightly tough, and they don't cause enough damage to reliably take down other scheme runners. So if you need to split your crew, that's a problem. People don't really use the friekorpsmenn much - they're not geared towards anything specifically. People either prefer a cheaper scheme runner, or something more shooty to kill other scheme runners. There are a number of suitable additions. Of course, it isn't just the crew. Tactics and managing resources (such as your cards) are critically important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunWithKnives Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Not fully thematic, but still: VS (Engage at will, Nythera, survivalist + shirts) Lazarus (oathkeeper, chain trinket) Hannah (IPB, regen trinket) HPE (conflux) Librarian 2 Desperados Turn 1 - equip HPE stuff, attack lazarus to lauch him 12" into shooting position , chain activate. Move Hannah twice, focus, steal libr's cast, try to snipe some weak model. Turn 2 - throw away foes from lazarus, shoot them, tear your shirt, chain activate, shoot more. Use desperados as scheme runners, although they are decent in melee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 How do you launch Lazarus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dima_v Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Quote How do you launch Lazarus? Schill's new attack. Armor +2 Makes it OK for Lazarus. He can also heal himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 But Schill's new attack is in Nythera Aftermath, and your list doesn't include it. EDITED: Sorry, FunWithKnives's list doesn't includes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunWithKnives Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Zebo said: But Schill's new attack is in Nythera Aftermath, and your list doesn't include it. EDITED: Sorry, FunWithKnives's list doesn't includes it. Whoops, fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconBytes Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 17 hours ago, FunWithKnives said: Turn 1 - equip HPE stuff, attack lazarus to lauch him 12" into shooting position , chain activate. Move Hannah twice, focus, steal libr's cast, try to snipe some weak model. Turn 2 - throw away foes from lazarus, shoot them, tear your shirt, chain activate, shoot more. Use desperados as scheme runners, although they are decent in melee Why not copy assimilate to copy Lazarus's attack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunWithKnives Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 13 hours ago, BaconBytes said: Why not copy assimilate to copy Lazarus's attack? Good option! I like libr's cast because it allows me to kill some obnoxious incorporeal model (primordial magic) with a moderate card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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