WWHSD Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: I feel like the counterplay is models that can punish sonnia for being that far up second activation, while not being so close to each other. But when I sent this thread to my casual group they all responded "sounds npe" so I probably won't run it. But are the models that can punish Sonnia for being the far up still going to be alive to do it or be able to cover enough ground to do it? It seems like you're almost bringing your own alpha crew and hoping that you can keep the key pieces from blowing up before you spring it. Does Guild have a way to get her out of harm's way after she attacks to limit the window for her being counter attacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelich Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Ouch. Start blocking LoS between your own pieces? Ridiculous as it is to do that instead of between Sonnia and your guys, it is a lot easier to control. Not going to stop the avalanche of damage on single targets, but models that cannot see the original target of the attack do not take damage from blasts (digital rulebook pg. 58 in box on bottom of the page). On paper seems like a lot of difficult work for a little effect against a simple strategy so not much of a "counter play" in the end, but every little bit helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWHSD Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, 7thSquirrel said: ... but models that cannot see the original target of the attack do not take damage from blasts (digital rulebook pg. 58 in box on bottom of the page).... Damn rules hiding in call out boxes. So easy to miss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 hours ago, WWHSD said: But are the models that can punish Sonnia for being the far up still going to be alive to do it or be able to cover enough ground to do it? It seems like you're almost bringing your own alpha crew and hoping that you can keep the key pieces from blowing up before you spring it. Does Guild have a way to get her out of harm's way after she attacks to limit the window for her being counter attacked? Look at the number of pushes in this list used to get her up there. You could companion and use some of the same pushes to get her to safety on turn 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atoli Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Ludvig said: Look at the number of pushes in this list used to get her up there. You could companion and use some of the same pushes to get her to safety on turn 2. you can take domador with belle and lure her back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Atoli said: you can take domador with belle and lure her back Feels like sooo many points wasted though. There's already a pretty big movement engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_wahou Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 07/02/2018 at 10:22 PM, Atoli said: Activations: 1. student gives fast to sonia companion on papa, hold this to sonia, place marker, push from investigator on sonia, walk 2. grimwel nimble forward, place marker for push for sonia, and his push on sonia sonia activates from cherufes up about 10" from starting point has 4ap and + to dmg The investigator's push is only once per activation. Unless I am mistaken, you can not use this ability twice unless you have 2 investigators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_wahou Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) ooops double post Edited February 10, 2018 by le_wahou double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, le_wahou said: The investigator's push is only once per activation. Unless I am mistaken, you can not use this ability twice unless you have 2 investigators. Once per activation means you can do it once per each activation. So Loco can push by placing a marker (Loco`s activation) then Grimwell can push by placing a marker (Grimwells activation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, le_wahou said: The investigator's push is only once per activation. Unless I am mistaken, you can not use this ability twice unless you have 2 investigators. Once per model activating, not once per turn. The "counter" resets as soon as you activate a new model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Ludvig said: Feels like sooo many points wasted though. There's already a pretty big movement engine. Are you saying big rube Goldberg machines are bad? Don't break my heart here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: Are you saying big rube Goldberg machines are bad? Don't break my heart here Hey, it's me you are talking to here! Of course I'm not saying that but in the list I copy-pasted on the first page of this I think every model except the watcher will actively interact with Sonnia to push or buff her so I think that qualifies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, Ludvig said: Once per model activating, not once per turn. The "counter" resets as soon as you activate a new model. Technically it resets even if the oponent activates a new model ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Tris said: Technically it resets even if the oponent activates a new model ^^ Yeah, I worded that poorly. I meant the plural of you or someone, any model or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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