ElPuto Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 What are your toughts on Benny? Do you see him used outside of Hamelin? Maybe with Parker, thanks to the Bandit Characteristic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I don't even find him useful in Hamlin... I mean if you wanted to run an all nihilist crew, with Ashes & Dust, to ignore a burning/poison/blight crew, sure.... but I find the rest of him useless at this point. His own actions interrupt the flow of the rat engine and he's fighting a role Nix does better. I don't know what he has to offer in Parker that a Wakou Raider could already provide or Dead Outlaws and Bandido could for less. This whole card is a swing and a miss for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 He was definitely better in GG17, when you could use Rat Presents to change enemy scheme marker into your own and score claim jump aa a result. Now I like taking him when I expect that my opponent is going to pick Guarded Treasure as one of his schemes - simply move rat into base contact with enemy marker, then change it into your own. He does different things than Nix - he offers greater damage output (2" range and sometimes 3/4/5 damage track plus damaging (0) Action compared to 1" 2/3/4 attack with an option to charge Blighted models for (1) AP), marker shenanigans and rat creation vs better tanking abilities (unless you are facing heavy CA crew) and sometimes useful blast/pulse/aura protection. I like taking him with A&D and Nix and spam Bleeding Disease. Both him and Nix are not autopicks, but sometimes are worth the cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrrael Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I mean having a Ca 6 bleeding disease is an insane amount of dmg so not sure how’s hes not making every Hamelin list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raimu Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Haven't tried him yet, but he looks decent on paper. But outside Hamelin I do not see any use, that Bandit in station is more for fluff, than real synergy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatlatinspeakingguy Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Raimu said: But outside Hamelin I do not see any use, that Bandit in station is more for fluff, than real synergy. Funny thing is that initially Benny had no Bandit characteristic - it was added during open beta on players' demand for more synergy with Parker, so in fact it has nothing to do with Benny's fluff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Azrrael said: I mean having a Ca 6 bleeding disease is an insane amount of dmg so not sure how’s hes not making every Hamelin list. Nix had that since Crossroads 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raimu Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, thatlatinspeakingguy said: Funny thing is that initially Benny had no Bandit characteristic - it was added during open beta on players' demand for more synergy with Parker, so in fact it has nothing to do with Benny's fluff. He looks pretty bandit on art to me xD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Azrrael said: I mean having a Ca 6 bleeding disease is an insane amount of dmg so not sure how’s hes not making every Hamelin list. Sometimes you simply want to try new stuff, and it's easier to not pick Benny over not taking Ashes and Dust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I take him all the time, because I take Plague Pits all the time. He chunks out damage that I never have to worry about flipping the black joker on. He is also slightly more survivable than Nix and has just a bit more utility for less points. Nix, incorporeal doesn't do much for him with a high chance of Min 3 damage around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nix's Sweet Taste of Failure keeps Nix alive for freaking ever, seeing as Drink Spirit keeps making people fail all the time as a zero action. It's hilarious. I had Nekima, a Doppleganger, and Mr Graves on him for three rounds before he died. Well worth the points and no need to maneuver any rats near him; much more worth it than Benny, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nix is either hit or miss - if your opponent didn't bring any damaging CA actions/ignore incorporeal effects, he can be a real pain, but otherwise he goes down fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apes-ma Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 11:24 AM, thatlatinspeakingguy said: Funny thing is that initially Benny had no Bandit characteristic - it was added during open beta on players' demand for more synergy with Parker, so in fact it has nothing to do with Benny's fluff. It turns out that just putting "Bandit" on a random model is no where near enough to count as synergy, or to throw Parker a bone! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadhna Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 boy is this model broken. Nix will die to a sidelong glance and do nothing but prevent blast damage for 10 SS. Benny will give you more rats, more Blight without duels, deny marker schemes, do ridiculous amounts of damage with Bigger They Are attached (how about min 4 against henchmen and enforcers with upgrades? also, a lonely McCabe is crying in a corner), ping for that extra wound with Swarm even with no rats around (Rat King are Vermin too!), heal himself off rats. And then Turn 3 he will start blowing things up with Bleeding Disease. He's a tank, a controller and damager all in one, I've run him for a half dozen games and he's never disappointed. On 1/22/2018 at 2:24 PM, thatlatinspeakingguy said: Funny thing is that initially Benny had no Bandit characteristic - it was added during open beta on players' demand for more synergy with Parker, so in fact it has nothing to do with Benny's fluff. seeing as how he's the leader of the sewer thugs known as the Brotherhood of the Rat, Bandit suits him just fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElPuto Posted February 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Seadhna said: boy is this model broken. Nix will die to a sidelong glance and do nothing but prevent blast damage for 10 SS. Benny will give you more rats, more Blight without duels, deny marker schemes, do ridiculous amounts of damage with Bigger They Are attached (how about min 4 against henchmen and enforcers with upgrades? also, a lonely McCabe is crying in a corner), ping for that extra wound with Swarm even with no rats around (Rat King are Vermin too!), heal himself off rats. And then Turn 3 he will start blowing things up with Bleeding Disease. He's a tank, a controller and damager all in one, I've run him for a half dozen games and he's never disappointed. seeing as how he's the leader of the sewer thugs known as the Brotherhood of the Rat, Bandit suits him just fine Finally, some love words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I think he is good Henchmen for Hamelin. Well, now he has two good Henchman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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