CapnBloodbeard Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I know that often Tara is considered to be quite a good master, but after 7-8 games with her I'm still not quite seeing it. Handing out fast...well, that's exchanging 1AP for another. I mean, sure, I'll take an AP on Lazarus over Tara any day, but still... Burying enemy models....I just have too hard a time getting this to work. I think I put about 20 attempts on Mei Feng one match, nada! Her reactivate is good, I think I'm struggling a bit with this one because I don't like putting her into danger. Beastie Bomb.....not applicable in every match, I don't think. And there are some downsides to it, but it can be potent. I dunno, am I just not playing her right, or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Spamming slow is just super good. Between her and 6 void wretches you have 9 slows per turn you can hand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Bit of a NPE list though. I know that's a 'win' list but not one that I have interest in - and plenty of players don't use that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffaluffacus Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Then sadly sounds like Tara may not be the girl for you. She is generally regarded as good, but definitely a NPE for the opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Fluffaluffacus said: Then sadly sounds like Tara may not be the girl for you. She is generally regarded as good, but definitely a NPE for the opponent. I don't buy that at all. There are plenty of Tara lists that don't include 6 void wretches. I've had fun with her, and I've gotten some good use out of the fast pulse, but felt like others seem to know something about her that I don't I was toying with the idea of using her WP- aura with Bishop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffaluffacus Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, CapnBloodbeard said: I don't buy that at all. There are plenty of Tara lists that don't include 6 void wretches. I've had fun with her, and I've gotten some good use out of the fast pulse, but felt like others seem to know something about her that I don't I was toying with the idea of using her WP- aura with Bishop Well yeah, there are. But the more competitive lists are wretch spam. Easily. I could also play Kaeris in Arcanists. Doesn't mean it'll be competitive. If you wan't to do good with Tara, spam is what she does best. Remove their ap and grow your ap. It would be like saying, yeah. Hamelin doesn't have to do the Rat engine at the beginning of the game. But...Like...Why wouldn't you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnBloodbeard Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Ok, that answer I can understand. So, in your view, unless you're trying to maximise handing out slow and killing your opponent's game, she's just a bit of an average, 'fun' master, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadhna Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 She has enough unique mechanics to make her fun. Now that Scramble is 1SS there are some nice lists you can build and she's way more mobile to not resort to casting Pull the Void 6 times a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunWithKnives Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 She is good the only problem with her is that she is super fragile in melee. Keep her away from heavy hitters! Also try desperados instead of wretches, that's ridiculously ap/ss efficient. Karina is also cool now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm a Teapot! Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Don’t forget her Resser side. Lots of fun things she can do there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chou Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yesterday I had my first match playing with Tara and I enjoyed it a lot, but I was only able to bury one model... the Nothing beast killed everything it touched so no buring there, the scion of the void killed with one attack (severe damage) a swine cursed, everybody was killing and no buring at all! That said, I lost miserably because Zipp took Tara away and she got beaten down by those filthy gremlins. In return I killed them all. Talos was nice, but I think I didn't use him properply, since there was no model buried I missed that part, and I didn't place him that well. The Nothing Beast was clearly the MVP, although I'd love to try Bishop and bomb him. Now, regarding the void wretches, how do I use them properly? Please correct me if I'm wrong: 1. The scion of the void must bury herself. 2. The void wretches use her attacks (and one of them heals her) or try to hand slows to enemy models. 3. During Tara's reactivation, she unburies the Scion (if needed). I guess that the void wretches spam list it's like those steps above but doing the second one in loop, it's that correct? In any case I'm not sure I would go there bearing in mind that I have the translucent nightmare and getting extra wretches means plastic ones which wouldn't match with their brothers (minor problem in any case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunWithKnives Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 1) Move tara her to cover as much as possible friendly models and one enemy in 6" bubble 2) Give out fast for everyone. Enemy model with fast receive -2wp and ++ on wretches dmg flips 3) Wretches wreck stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Chou said: Yesterday I had my first match playing with Tara and I enjoyed it a lot, but I was only able to bury one model... the Nothing beast killed everything it touched so no buring there, the scion of the void killed with one attack (severe damage) a swine cursed, everybody was killing and no buring at all! That said, I lost miserably because Zipp took Tara away and she got beaten down by those filthy gremlins. In return I killed them all. Talos was nice, but I think I didn't use him properply, since there was no model buried I missed that part, and I didn't place him that well. The Nothing Beast was clearly the MVP, although I'd love to try Bishop and bomb him. Now, regarding the void wretches, how do I use them properly? Please correct me if I'm wrong: 1. The scion of the void must bury herself. 2. The void wretches use her attacks (and one of them heals her) or try to hand slows to enemy models. 3. During Tara's reactivation, she unburies the Scion (if needed). I guess that the void wretches spam list it's like those steps above but doing the second one in loop, it's that correct? In any case I'm not sure I would go there bearing in mind that I have the translucent nightmare and getting extra wretches means plastic ones which wouldn't match with their brothers (minor problem in any case). Wretches are just there to spam slow on models, scheme and be obnoxious. If a model gets buried they can dogpile on it. However their main purpose is to deny your opponent AP and be cheap activations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudgeBlack Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 I ran a list that another player suggested (sorry I can't properly credit it) that involved 4 abominations for cards and activations with the last forming them into the desolation engine, Death Marshall to bury Rusty Alice, Malifaux child using Tara's ability to fast and bury Lazarus, Tara burns Oath keeper (if needed) unburying both Laz and Alice, Alice gives Laz reactivate, then Laz activated twice healing and raining down 4 shots with each activation (fast plus rapid fire then oath keeper plus rapid fire). Wasn't always effective but it was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXXXVIII Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 hours ago, MudgeBlack said: I ran a list that another player suggested (sorry I can't properly credit it) that involved 4 abominations for cards and activations with the last forming them into the desolation engine, Death Marshall to bury Rusty Alice, Malifaux child using Tara's ability to fast and bury Lazarus, Tara burns Oath keeper (if needed) unburying both Laz and Alice, Alice gives Laz reactivate, then Laz activated twice healing and raining down 4 shots with each activation (fast plus rapid fire then oath keeper plus rapid fire). Wasn't always effective but it was fun. The person suggesting you this list must be a really smart and good looking guy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 10:07 PM, MudgeBlack said: I ran a list that another player suggested (sorry I can't properly credit it) that involved 4 abominations for cards and activations with the last forming them into the desolation engine, Death Marshall to bury Rusty Alice, Malifaux child using Tara's ability to fast and bury Lazarus, Tara burns Oath keeper (if needed) unburying both Laz and Alice, Alice gives Laz reactivate, then Laz activated twice healing and raining down 4 shots with each activation (fast plus rapid fire then oath keeper plus rapid fire). Wasn't always effective but it was fun. Unburying Laz and Alice in one turn without Scion to help? yikes. that's at least 2 SS or High Masks. That's kinda rough all in all. I do like the deso engine delivery system though, especially with the 3 cards drawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Why bury Alyce when you can give reactivation to laz, the bury him and then heal with void wretch? Just read Alyce action, nevermind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green-n-dumb Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hello! Can you advice some budget models/budget to expand Tara box for new player? Cheap 50ss core that can be expanded later and can have some variety on schemes/strats. Friend of mine want to start playing her and he is new to Malifaux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beergod Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 8:49 PM, green-n-dumb said: Hello! Can you advice some budget models/budget to expand Tara box for new player? Cheap 50ss core that can be expanded later and can have some variety on schemes/strats. Friend of mine want to start playing her and he is new to Malifaux. Her Box= $50 box of Void Wretches= 21 Scion of the void= 11 Malifaux Child = 11 or Her Box $50 Talos= 21 Death Marshalls= 21 Malifaux child= 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudgeBlack Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, DXXXVIII said: The person suggesting you this list must be a really smart and good looking guy! Why yes, I have heard he is! Thanks for the fun I had with that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRocketPants Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 4:02 PM, beergod said: Her Box= $50 box of Void Wretches= 21 Scion of the void= 11 Malifaux Child = 11 I'd go with this option. Death marshals only see my lists when I want to do a double bomb (burry The void beast and Bishop for example for a turn 1 alpha strike), otherwise they are quite useless. I'd go with the first option, the list will allow you to learn the game and is quite flexible vs most things. Also it makes it very easy to expand further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey_C Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, SirRocketPants said: Death marshals only see my lists when I want to do a double bomb (burry The void beast and Bishop for example for a turn 1 alpha strike), otherwise they are quite useless. In contrast I almost always take 2 Death Marshals. I think they are fantastic. Pine box lets them swing way above thier weight class, hard to wound means you don't need to worry about cheating cards for thier defence, and finish the job has won me games. A Death Marshal with fast is no joke. Also between Tara and the Scion you can do 5 damage to a model by burying them (which comes from conditions which can be very good vs Take on for the team). TLDR: Love me some Death Marshals my favourite Tara list is Tara Karina Nothing Beast Scion of the Void Death Marshal Death Marshal Void Wretch Void Wretch So I recommend: Tara Box Scion Death Marshals Guild Autopsies (for summons or to swap out the wretches) Then try to get a Punk zombie (for summons). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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