WWHSD Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Morgan Vening said: I'm assuming the reason is twofold. One, that Gaining Grounds as some suggest with defense of the Guild Guard change, is built on things working a certain way. And the other being that making sure all of the year's big events all have a consistent scheme set. Sure, you could have the GenCon 2018 and Adepticon 2019 be the single run, but it makes it simpler for Gaining Grounds 18 to be valid from early 2018 to the end of 2018, rather than from mid 2018 to mid 2019. Avoids confusion. I'm not suggesting that they release Gaining Grounds later in the year. To me it makes sense that the errata that is released around the same time as Gaining Grounds be something simple (like these cost changes). You've got enough moving parts with the changes in Gaining Grounds that trying to do more complex errata at the same time seems like a recipe for disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitli Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Does anyone know if the errata cards are on WGV yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griautis Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gitli said: Does anyone know if the errata cards are on WGV yet? They're not there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Someone in charge of the app might want to send the new version and errata update off to the iOS app store. edit - app store just updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 13 hours ago, meows0r said: - Mouse 3ss cuz I'd like to use him for once, and then Troubleshooters can join Bound By Law as having every model in it Erratad (if we include temporary shielding) 3 stones for Mouse would still be way too much. One can only hope that he is being completely reworked and they haven't finished testing him... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztok Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 It's strange, I haven't found the update on my app yet, and no GG 2018 either! I looked on the app page and nothing said I needed an update, super confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aztok said: It's strange, I haven't found the update on my app yet, and no GG 2018 either! I looked on the app page and nothing said I needed an update, super confused I had to delete and redownlad it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztok Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, -Loki- said: I had to delete and redownlad it. If I redownload it, I'll still have my $10 purchase of the cards, right? Do I have to do anything special for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Aztok said: If I redownload it, I'll still have my $10 purchase of the cards, right? Do I have to do anything special for that? Picked that up automatically for me. Youll have to redo your model list though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztok Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, -Loki- said: Picked that up automatically for me. Youll have to redo your model list though. Thanks, man. I'm like a grandpa when it comes to apps and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yool1981 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Would it be possible to have a .pdf per faction with the errated cards at proper printing size, ready to print out? Additionally, can we get a watermark of the version on the cards like "180106" (for example) for this errata so that we know what we have is up to date? Maintaining up to date decks is becoming painful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribble Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, yool1981 said: Additionally, can we get a watermark of the version on the cards like "180106" (for example) for this errata so that we know what we have is up to date? Seconded. Small text at the bottom of the card, or a little "strip" (like on the alternate model cards) with a date would be great, so you can quickly and easily tell if you have the most recent version or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 They already have that, or at least my cards from previous erratas mention which month and year they're errata'd from. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yool1981 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 You are correct, I must have an old version of the errata. I'd still like to have that ready to print .pdf though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucidicide Posted January 9, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Hey everyone, I just want to make a few quick comments about errata. First, I think it's important to say that no errata will please everyone. Social media and the forum are in a near-constant state of arguing about tier lists and what is good and worth taking. Podcasts debate it for hours at a time. What I see at US tournaments is different than what I saw at the UK Nationals, but the level of play seemed about the same. I think the saying is "different strokes for different folks." As such, you can expect that any nerf will be claimed as not needed, a good move, and not enough. We all have opinions on what's correct (myself included), and it's helpful to consider that what dominates or is terrible in your area or experience may not be so for others. The errata, on the whole, is focused on moving the game toward a more balanced state. Second, it's worth noting that no errata is going to fix everything. This is the biggest errata Malifaux has ever gotten, and there are numerous claims that it isn't going far enough. There are still imbalanced models, and some of these models may still be imbalanced. I am aware of that. That said, I do think that this errata is putting things in a better place. By limiting the errata's size (and again, this was a big errata), we have the chance to see how things stand while still improving the game overall. Additionally, particularly large erratas will cause an overall sense of confusion about the game state, and they'd create even more consternation based on my first point. Suffice it to say: no, I do not think the game is perfectly balanced after this, but I do think it is better. Third and finally, I'd like to mention that the cost changes were a targeted strike as I mentioned in the initial post. We've had errata with more rules changes, and we will again in the future. At this point in the game's life, it seemed to me that a number of cost changes were the correct course of action, as well as focusing changes mostly on older models. It's not because they are easier or because there aren't other ways to fix the models. It's because cost adjustments like this can help correctly dial in the points costs of models, which can help us avoid things like power creep. I write all that by way of letting people have some idea of what I'm thinking and how I view errata. I expect there to be praise and criticism any time I touch the game (and the times that I don't). That's all fair enough, and your commentary helps me see how I can further improve the game in the future. I appreciate people leaving their feedback, so I thought I'd leave some of my own. I apologize to those of you who were negatively impacted by the errata. Hopefully you'll find things you like in it, and I'd appreciate it if you'd continue to leave constructive feedback so that hopefully next time you're the ones who are happy with it (and everyone else can suffer! Mwhahahaha!). Thanks all! 30 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribble Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, retnab said: They already have that, or at least my cards from previous erratas mention which month and year they're errata'd from. Cool - I don't yet have any errated cards, hence the confusion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey_C Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I am surprised Friekorpsmen were not affected. I used to take them often but now I think they are quite behind the curve for a 5ss model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mikey_C said: I am surprised Friekorpsmen were not affected. I used to take them often but now I think they are quite behind the curve for a 5ss model. Agree, but I think they want to keep the Freikorps lists as "elite" with not many minis, so I suppose they will have some kind of errata in their rules to make them worth the 5ss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBogle Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mikey_C said: I am surprised Friekorpsmen were not affected. I used to take them often but now I think they are quite behind the curve for a 5ss model. I agree with this 100%. I feel this way about the Death Marshalls too. I wish the Errata had a few rule and/or stat changes to help keep SS costs the same but overall help out a few models that aren't getting to the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall78 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Was just chatting this morning that I thought this would be the best way to make some changes and see how they settle before changing a bunch of rules. You file off some rough edges and expose some new ideas. If changes come July to the really pokey bits of the rules, well then it just smooths things out a bit more. Yes I am sure some people wanted their favorite faction and or models fixed but I feel this was the best and easiest change without blowing up how everyone plays the game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernslayer Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 2:50 PM, Tumling said: @Aaron will there be an errata 2018 bundle on Wargame Vault or will we have to buy single cards? I too am curious about this. for we have a LOT of cards we will need to get. ( if this has been answered, please point me to it I did not see it when i read through the thread) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, fernslayer said: I too am curious about this. for we have a LOT of cards we will need to get. ( if this has been answered, please point me to it I did not see it when i read through the thread) Thanks! There will be a bundle for each Faction. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Two done so far: http://www.wargamevault.com/product/229413/Arcanists-Jan18-Errata-BUNDLE http://www.wargamevault.com/product/230885/Gremlins-Jan18-Errata-BUNDLE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall78 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 There is a discount too?! Awesome, now it will only cost me some back bacon and a couple bottles of maple syrup in Canadian dollhairs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucidicide Posted January 9, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Discount, yup. Not trying to make money with the errata, just trying to improve the game! 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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