f1amius Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Hi guys. I can't solve the problem which master better to take when playing vs another res. i thought to use mcmorning cuz he ignore hard to wound and armor and have huge dmg from poison. But if the opponent have the hanged mcmorning will die too fast. The main problem is to counter Nicodim, with new models he is really terrifying opponent. Which master can u recommend vs another res player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorschlag Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 If your main concern is the hanged look for bury or paralyze tricks as this makes their rarity an issue for your opponent. If Nicodem is causing you issues think about models that can deny him corpses or use them against him by blowing them up, attacking through them, summoning or simply discarding them. Alternatively aim for models that can apply pressure early to drain resources and reduce the potential of strong summons. I've heard Seamus is horrible to face for Nicodem but having not played that out I can only go off of hearsay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 One think to look at when you are in the Resser mirror match is how much do you need corpses. I've seen games won because of the Muahuahua upgrade turning all the corpses into corpses only 1 side can use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1amius Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 As an option take Seamus with maniacal laugh, jump in opponents model and turn all markers into MZ, and then use them for corpse bloat attack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapdancer Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Molly loves Nico especially when she has a Kentauroi to taxi her in, best counter to Nico currently in ressers. Taking maniacal laughter is cute but a good Nico player isn't going to let you get much use out of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 28 minutes ago, Tapdancer said: Molly loves Nico especially when she has a Kentauroi to taxi her in, best counter to Nico currently in ressers. Taking maniacal laughter is cute but a good Nico player isn't going to let you get much use out of that. A master killing three models and laughing those corpses into zombies in the same activation is three lass corpses for Nico. Interrupting between his corpse generators and him should achieve a similar result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1amius Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Tapdancer said: Molly loves Nico especially when she has a Kentauroi to taxi her in, best counter to Nico currently in ressers. Taking maniacal laughter is cute but a good Nico player isn't going to let you get much use out of that. What is the way to counter Niko with Molly? She don't use markers for summon, and don't discard them. i also think to take yin and try give - flip on Niko's Ca actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapdancer Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Molly can dump PZs with black blood into the summoning engine zone turn one. Between slice and dice / splash damage it's pretty brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapdancer Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Ludvig said: A master killing three models and laughing those corpses into zombies in the same activation is three lass corpses for Nico. Interrupting between his corpse generators and him should achieve a similar result? Anything is possible given right variables. I would however point out given the positive flips on defence and card draw for each kill (assuming your targets are likely to be in Nico bubble)that would be a difficult outcome to achieve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Tapdancer said: Molly loves Nico especially when she has a Kentauroi to taxi her in, best counter to Nico currently in ressers. Taking maniacal laughter is cute but a good Nico player isn't going to let you get much use out of that. Are you expecting Nico to not have corpse markers? Or just to be able to project enough force that you can't always safely turn them? Its certainly not going to ruin a Nico game, but it will affect their tempo, and sometimes thats enough to give you the edge. You get into a kind of chicken, workign out when to steal their corpses, and when you don't need to, all of which can reduce the summoning threat of Nico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatlatinspeakingguy Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 8 hours ago, f1amius said: ut if the opponent have the hanged mcmorning will die too fast. if you're afraid of The Hanged, take Chiaki. she remains very usefull even if your opponent has no dreadful conditions to impose on your models. as others said, Maniacal Laugh is also good in mirror matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Seamus has always been solid for me in the mirror match. With Sinister Rep, Corpse Bloat, Do you know who I am? He can easily get where needed and lock down Nico's stuff with high WP duels after he's spent his good cards summoning. Corpse Bloat can do a lot of work against his horde too. Reva seems like a pretty good pick as well. Your own Mindless Zombies and Candles can provide you with ways to get at his important henchmen and enforcers. You might even get some work out of her new Sky Riders upgrade to blow up every corpse on the board at once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateCaptain Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I'd take Reva, she can punch through corpses if he leaves any, and your own, and you can easily threat far enough to just kill the summoning engine, at which point he falls apart. And make sure you take Guises of Death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Another option if you positively know you're up vs Nicedem would be to go Kirai with some anti-Corpse tech. Gaki, Goryo, Onryo, Seishin and Ikiryo... none of your incidental summons will drop Corpses when they die. Due to Gaki actively eating them up and being cheap as chips you could even hire some. Supplement this with Sebastian holding Those Are Not Ours to sacrifice any of your own Shikome/Hanged/Drowned that you summon before they give die and opportunistically use a Corpse to summon a dog. Bring in Phillip And The Nanny to feed you cards and for Scheme Marker control. These utility pieces should be able to deny Nicodem all his best toys and let you come out ahead. Another great thing is that Kirai isn't usually upgrade-heavy from what I hear, so you should have space to sneak in a Maniacal Laugh of your own to try pinch his Corpse Markers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1amius Posted November 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Thanks all for help. I met another ress player. but it was reva and for my mcmorning it was easy game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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