Fazza92 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Hi all, we've seen that Hoffman and Douglas have received 2 new great upgrades,that put them in a new way of competition,very good compared to the past. Nellie and Mccabe are good to all.Like past year. But Sonnia e Perdita?They have received good upgrades,but not so good like others masters I Think,even Justice now seem very good with improved mobility e survivalist. how you see ours 2 gunner ladies? Perdita with a chance to draw a card per turn seems good,but use 1Ap to remove markers isn't very good for she in my opinion... Sonnia idem...ok is good chain active models...but she continue to require too much resources to work good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 The new strats don't punish ranged models like for example headhunter did so I think they will both get a lot more done. A lot of the reason they weren't popular in gg-17 was how the strats and common schemes worked with frame for murder showing up often. If shooting the crap out of the opposition comes back in style I think they might stand a decent chance. No more masks making Sonnia capable in melee doesn't seem big but I think it lessens the need to always take the same support kit for her and play around a little more. She should now bail herself out decently by either killing or pushing the opponent so she's harder to lock down. She might not become as powerful as Sandeep or Nellie but you can't have everything and I think she will have a lot more viable pools. Franc her up, polish up her df with confiscated lore and do Decay each turn while blasting shit in Public executions. If she's at df 8 with a possible def stance she can probably handle some incoming beaters. If they are def 5 or lower she can poke them once to push them out of engagement and blast for the two remaining ap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 It also depends on what you are playing against. Sonnia, for example, is a really good answer to Nellie in certain scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sonnia was arguably one of the strongest guild masters when just using the rule book. I can't see any thing in GG18 that she would struggle to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sonnia kills. If your opponent has no models, he can't get points =) Also, her new upgrade, which allows her to summon a totem is great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rostislav said: Sonnia kills. If your opponent has no models, he can't get points =) Also, her new upgrade, which allows her to summon a totem is great. Resummoning the totem might actually become a big thing if you can use it in the right way. I'm not sure if it's free or requires resources since I onl have the writeups to go from but just the dampening ability on the totem can make a difference. You might use cheaper ap to kill it just to get burning on an enemy and then instantly resummon the totem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Kill something, chain activate totem, go base to base to enemy summoner. Priceless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ludvig said: I'm not sure if it's free or requires resources since I onl have the writeups to go from but just the dampening ability on the totem can make a difference. Free. No resourses. No LOS needed. If enemy model with burning dies, you can summon a totem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rostislav said: Free. No resourses. No LOS needed. If enemy model with burning dies, you can summon a totem. LoS is needed for every action or ability that summons so you'll need LoS to where you summon it. But if the chain activation isn't within the normal 6" are that should still mess with people. Sonnia is also massively hampered by enemies who stone to give her negatives on damage which the totem solves nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ludvig said: LoS is needed for every action or ability that summons so you'll need LoS to where you summon it. Unless stated otherwise =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Rostislav said: Unless stated otherwise =) Does it specifically state that you can do it outside of LoS?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Yep 1 minute ago, Ludvig said: Does it specifically state that you can do it outside of LoS?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebreaker Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ludvig said: Does it specifically state that you can do it outside of LoS?! YEP! ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Holy shit. I like that upgrade a lot more now! What's the range on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebreaker Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 No range) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Haha, that's just silly. Sounds like that upgrade isn't so bad after all. That will be a very effective method of setting up her targets for next turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legislat Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Everybody is at the other side of the wall? totem walks to the wall. Sonnia chain activates. Blasts of her own totem with a tome. Everybody is on fire now and a new totem will be born soon. Chain activation is a bag of tricks to Sonnia. If only watchers were witch hunters... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'm actually eyeing up perdita tonight for a game with the 2018 schemes. its got the new FFM, leave your mark, collect evidence and buried treasure, with ply for information. I'm thinking with Jury and the ability to shoot scheme markers I am going to play her for control. mostly pacifist. (still taking her killing upgrade too). To do with that I am bringing a bunch of family and nino, but I intend to place in a way that mainly aims at protecting Nino and lets abuela and the monster hunters do most of the killing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Legislat said: Everybody is at the other side of the wall? totem walks to the wall. Sonnia chain activates. Blasts of her own totem with a tome. Everybody is on fire now and a new totem will be born soon. Chain activation is a bag of tricks to Sonnia. If only watchers were witch hunters... Chain activation with nurse HB gives serious threat range too that they have to worry about. Its not like she won't heal it back from the brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostislav Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Legislat said: Everybody is at the other side of the wall? totem walks to the wall. Sonnia chain activates. Blasts of her own totem with a tome. Everybody is on fire now and a new totem will be born soon. Chain activation is a bag of tricks to Sonnia. If only watchers were witch hunters... You still need LOS and range for chain activation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legislat Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Rostislav said: You still need LOS and range for chain activation. And you have it. Totem is not on the other side) And your blasts have 8' threat range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Legislat said: And you have it. Totem is not on the other side) And your blasts have 8' threat range. You can`t blast anyone that doesn`t see the totem. Blast rules state that you have to have los to the action target to suffer from blasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Rostislav said: You still need LOS and range for chain activation. Is it the standard 6" of companion or accomplice or is this a completely different ability as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSkip Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 It`s different, 12" range and LOS. Every witch hunter can chain activate from another witch hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebreaker Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 It's not a regular companion or accomplice. Its 12" range, and works only on witch hunters in both way. If witch hunters end activation you can activate only another witch hunters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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