RumbleMunkey Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Hey all, with the GenCon (and elsewhere) revelations of two additional upcoming allegiances, I'm having trouble convincing others to buy in now. They're feeling like they'd rather wait and see if in of the two future allegiances appeals more. Any hints on when those two might come out? It was unexpected to get spoilers this early when the backerkit is still rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 We don't even have the four core Allegiances yet. My guess is, since they're a last page 'teaser' image in the rulebook, they're going to be for the first expansion book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleMunkey Posted August 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Yeah, that would make sense. I'm just impatient to get in on the game, and they're willing to wait for the new Allegiances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 They will wait about a year plus then from when it's publicly available. We work upwards to two to three years down the line from what y'all see publicly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 12 hours ago, RumbleMunkey said: Yeah, that would make sense. I'm just impatient to get in on the game, and they're willing to wait for the new Allegiances. I hear you. We've got someone who is Thunders mad, so I thnk Three Knigdoms will push him over the edge into playing the game. Alas, being so far away, he'll probably watch us play until the Allegiance is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleMunkey Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I may just jump in anyway and find players. This is probably not publicly shareable, but has there been any word on how much longer the backerkit will be up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 A little while longer at least, they've said they'll keep it up for a while after the official shipping prices are announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnin' Coal Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, retnab said: A little while longer at least, they've said they'll keep it up for a while after the official shipping prices are announced. This is good...the longer backerkit stays open the more I have been able to add...one unit at a time......but am now up to to dual commander and almost full strength...Court Of Two needs to be at least a year away to give me any chance at all of getting two factions fully painted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikiwith Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I've seen that one of the new faction Will be the three kindgdoms and the oni's. Which one Will be the other? Do you know about it from Gencon? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 IIRC from what we've heard the two will be the Three Kingdoms and the Kamui (Oni), not together as one faction but as one each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Considering that there's Earth and Malifaux Allegiances, I'm guessing Three Kingdoms will be the Earth Allegiance and Kimon/Oni will be the Malifaux Allegiance. Though this might be a first time case of a dual Allegiance master crossing the Earth/Malifaux border, but I wouldn't count on it. I like the idea that the Ten Thunders, a criminal organization, meld the Oni and Three Kingdoms styles, while the actual Three Kingdoms army remains separate from Oni. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 I admit it can be kinda frustrating to see the new stuff that will eventually be coming. The 3 Kingdoms, Kimon, and Court of 2 models all look amazing, and if given the choice to have one of them to start with, it seems likely I would have chosen one of them @_@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 Considering the sort of mix-and-match ways factions are being done so far, one big perk is you can have your starter of Cult/Hordes and bring in your Envoys of the Court and (probably) Kimon with them too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 hours ago, MetaphoricDragn said: I admit it can be kinda frustrating to see the new stuff that will eventually be coming. The 3 Kingdoms, Kimon, and Court of 2 models all look amazing, and if given the choice to have one of them to start with, it seems likely I would have chosen one of them @_@ My solution is to just go with everything. I'll probably wind up with an allegiance box from every Malifaux allegiance, even if I don't completely follow each Allegiance. The fact that the Allegiance boxes are complete 1 commander armies is a huge boon, and dual Allegiance commanders let you bring one you've dabbled in to a 2 commander game. I'm now curious how dual commanders will work with more than 2 Allegiances per side. Horomatangi lets you take the full scrip of either Cult and Hordes for one company. Will we have Cult/Kimon, Cult/Court, Hordes/Kimon, Hordes/Court, Court/Kimon as well? Or will it be more selective and we only get dual Allegiance commanders linking some Allegiances but not others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 You'll probably never see anything close to all game combinations possible by dual commanders -- over time that's just too much. We're already missing 4 combinations (Empire/Cult, Empire/Hordes, Aby/Cult, Aby/Hordes), and as the Guild and Court line up, we'll be missing that combo, too... not to mention things like Empire/Court. As we add more Allegiances, it will only get more pronounced. That said, you should certainly expect more in the future... just don't expect every combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragn Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, Aaron said: You'll probably never see anything close to all game combinations possible by dual commanders -- over time that's just too much. We're already missing 4 combinations (Empire/Cult, Empire/Hordes, Aby/Cult, Aby/Hordes), and as the Guild and Court line up, we'll be missing that combo, too... not to mention things like Empire/Court. As we add more Allegiances, it will only get more pronounced. That said, you should certainly expect more in the future... just don't expect every combination. I both want ALL THE THINGS! while simultaneously knowing I cannot handle all the things ;-; 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akai Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 It wouild be neat if you can have 2 dual commanders to get three allegiances together..Earth Side vs Malifaux Side...most likely harder to balance though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 The rules for hiring from extra Allegiances doesn't allow you to grab from more than 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saduhem Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Has any art from the Kimon/Oni allegiance been shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 3:47 AM, Saduhem said: Has any art from the Kimon/Oni allegiance been shown? Not that I know of - the only info we have on the Kimon is a sentence or two pretty much confirming that they'll be an Allegiance in TOS. The closest you can probably get to pics is by looking at the Oni found in Malifaux. I like to think that Ohaguro Bettari, the Obsidian Oni, Yokai and Jorogumo in particular would inform the design of the Allegiance as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavian and Deathgrip Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 4/18/2018 at 10:38 PM, Rathnard said: Not that I know of - the only info we have on the Kimon is a sentence or two pretty much confirming that they'll be an Allegiance in TOS. The closest you can probably get to pics is by looking at the Oni found in Malifaux. I like to think that Ohaguro Bettari, the Obsidian Oni, Yokai and Jorogumo in particular would inform the design of the Allegiance as a whole. Events from the Obsidian Gate event also suggest that their forces will contain Arabian Djinn, Hindu Asura and Chinese Yoagai, and hopefully even some European demons. Albeit I must admit that I cannot confirm the last. Banasuva also seems to be one of such creatures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akai Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 There is plan for a 2-player starter set and 2 allegiances (Three Kingdoms and Kimon). I would like to know when these will be released compared to the four allegiances that were in the kickstarter during retail. It would allow me to decide on how much money I can spend in the near future. Three Kingdoms and Kimon allegiances sound like the allegiances I would prefer to collect before the other allegiances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I don't know about the starter pack but i'd be shocked if any more allegiances dropped before next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 12 hours ago, retnab said: I don't know about the starter pack but i'd be shocked if any more allegiances dropped before next year. Completely agree. TOS and the first four Allegiances look to have an official release this year, probably around Gencon since that seems to be a thing games companies do. The rumoured Guild/Court Starter box is something we have almost no info on - just a couple of art pieces and IIRC, a few *possible* prototype sculpts shown at previous conventions. Beyond that, we've no idea where this set is at in terms of production, so it's anyone's guess as to when it's coming out. If we're really lucky it'll be Gencon, but I'm not holding my breath. The Three Kingdoms/Kimon will presumably be part of the next major expansion for TOS, likely with it's own book full of rules and background. If Wyrd follows the pattern they have with Malifaux then I'd expect to see a Gencon 2019 release. But that assumes they don't decide to stagger major releases with Malifaux (ie. Malifaux book one year, TOS book the next). I think it's very unlikely they'll do that, since surely they'd want to maintain consistent releases for both systems year round? But then again, who knows what nefarious plans they're brewing? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Honestly I wouldn't be a fan of staggering game releases over years. Infinity really suffers from only one content drop every 2 years - it's hard to maintain a groups interest when there's a year with nothing new. Then if they push some releases forward to build hype, they reduce the new content in the book (like CB releasing the Druze army list before Uprising and USAriadna before Human Sphere) and need to do it again with the next book and it turns into a cycle of needing to drop the next books content before it's release to maintain hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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