santaclaws01 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Let's discuss the new upgrades, as people from gencon are kind enough to spoil them that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Really eager to see adolescent, cricket-bat swinging dreamer in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyBear Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Any news please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 These are things I've heard: Lilith can make Hazardous terrain. Collodi gets a melee attack and something to do with her Summoning. Zoraida gets a Trigger for the Obey to have the Target Charge and also a Trigger for her Bewitch to Cast Obey on the Target. Also something about causing damage on models with multiple Conditions or something. Titania can change models into Undead Fae and can give out Armor. She can also choose Suits to add to her Actions. Pandora can Summon Sorrows and hire Woes cross-Faction. Also, her attacks get a default damage track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 From the guild Lucius gets an upgrade that gives him arcane reservoir, and the ability to discard a card to draw one. If the drawn card is worse, he can discard it to draw another. His other upgrade has three abilities. The first is that he can discard an opponent's scheme marker at the start of his activation if he has more vp. The second is that when he kills a model with Devil's Deal, he gets another soul stone. The third is an action that can give a target the condition that it cannot cheat fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_acolyte Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Math Mathonwy said: Titania can change models into Undead Fae and can give out Armor. She can also choose Suits to add to her Actions. Pandora can Summon Sorrows and hire Woes cross-Faction. Also, her attacks get a default damage track. These two sound very interesting to me. Also I may have to go buy some reporters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 One note said that Titania was almost untouchable by minions?...some masters are going to hate facing that. Collodi #1 was melee. Some Collodi players were describing it as stupid OP, but I really really REALLY hate the slow-and-delayed-obey of My Will, my personal NPE, and anything Collodi does which isn't that, I am happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edopersichetti Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Collodi's IS crazy OP. It's a big change in playstyle from the slow and delayed My Will, but equally powerful. Imagine a Fast Collodi (from Strum) travelling with, say, 3-4 Marionettes. He can get Focus from each and every one of them, every time he attacks, so he can dish out 4 Ml attacks with Focus and attack value, like, 10??? That's something like 16 dmg on average (I'm counting 2 moderate and 2 severe). In general, all Neverborn got nice upgrades, somewhat useful at least. I'm ok with this - just a bit disappointed since I also play Gremlins and collectively their upgrades were hugely underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrflamme Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I may have to finally get around to painting my Lilith and Nephilim boxes. The new black blood and Hazardous terrain upgrades sounds sexy, particularly with Mysterious Emissary to turn the board into land mines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyris Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Pyrflamme said: I may have to finally get around to painting my Lilith and Nephilim boxes. The new black blood and Hazardous terrain upgrades sounds sexy, particularly with Mysterious Emissary to turn the board into land mines. Yeah, Lilith is my favorite master(mistress?) and her new upgrades sound awesome. I'm pretty stoked about them. I'm also excited to hear more about Dreamer's upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 So more on the titania upgrades. Both limited. One lets her gain whatever suit she wants for triggers in a duel with the enemy leader, and she deals +1 damage to them. Blocks healing and soulstone use in an aura around her. Gives her an action to deal damage to a model equal to their missing wounds with a max of 4, or 5 if they're the leader. Her other limited turns minions and enforcers into undead fae. She takes 2 less damage from minions and peons, 1 less from enforcers and henchmen. These reductions do not have a minimum like armor. Also gives an action to give a fae the armor +1 condition if they didn't already have the armor condition. Her conflux gives the emissary the ability to get a free suit as long as he's near a hungry land marker, and an action to give an effect to a friendly fae model. Armor +1, drop a scheme marker in base with them, heal 2, or give every model engaged with them burning +1. Overall Titania got quite the boost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrflamme Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 The leader one sounds nice but the other one sounds incredible. My few games with Titania have already seen pretty aggressive play with her, that'll just help even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Dreamer gets a limited and non-limited. Non-limited gives chain activating between him and LCB, both ways. Also gives daydreams a Ml attack regardless of if dreamer is in play or not. Limited upgrade gives him an increase to his Wds and Cg, and 1 Ap for Ml attacks. Gives him a Ml attack with a trigger to swap places with a friendly nightmare model within 6". Lilith got an upgrade that plays into black blood more. When a model is killed by black blood or black blood pustule in an aura around her she can place a scheme marker in base with them. Draws a card when a model with the black blood ability is killed. Can heal a model with black blood 2 as a (0). Her other upgrade allows her to place 50mm severe hazardous terrain markers at the start of her activation each turn and as an after damaging trigger on her attacks. The markers go away if they deal severe damage. She gives immunity to hazardous terrain in an aura around her to friendlies, and when an enemy is killed by hazardous terrain she draws a card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Collodi gets an upgrade to place a marker as a 1 action, and at the start of the turn can discard a card to place a friendly puppet in base contact with one of those markers, it takes 2 damage, the marker gets discarded and a scrap marker is placed in base with them. Other upgrades gives an Ml attack that lets you draw a card when you deal moderate or severe damage. Triggers to increase the duel total per friendly puppet in 6 and LoS up to +4, and a trigger to give them the embraced condition(no walk or charge). Pandora gets a limited to hire out of faction woes, summon a poltergeist when a model dies to misery damage, and an action to summon a sorrow in base contact with an enemy model that has at least one condition, then the opponent may choose to end any number of conditions on the model. Other upgrade is discard a card to take incite as a (1) once per turn. Trigger on self loathing and self harm that gives model's she targets an action with a damage track, and if she uses that action the damage can't be reduced. Zoraida get's an upgrade to give a once per turn trigger on obey to charge instead of doing a 1 action. A trigger on bewitch to take obey. Other upgrade gives an ability that enemy models in an aura with a condition that cheat fate take damage. Gives a once per turn action to deal damage equal to the number of cards your opponent has in hand, up to 4. Nothing more to lucius than what was already said. Lynch get's a limited that allows friendly models in an aura around him and huggy to always cheat second, and an ability to discard masks at the start of his activation, and either give out brilliance in 6", drop a scheme marker in base with him and huggy, or heal all friendly models 2. Other upgrade is non-limited. When an enemy model with brilliance dies within an aura of Lynch or Huggy, you can discard two cards to summon a depleted. There's a penalty applied for each ace used for this ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, santaclaws01 said: Lynch get's a limited that allows friendly models in an aura around him and huggy to always cheat second, OK, that sounds seriously brutal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_acolyte Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 52 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said: OK, that sounds seriously brutal! But is it worth it at the cost of huggy being able to die and not come back. My answer: possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, D_acolyte said: But is it worth it at the cost of huggy being able to die and not come back. My answer: possibly. Aye, it's an interesting trade-off for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_acolyte Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, santaclaws01 said: Dreamer gets a limited and non-limited. Non-limited gives chain activating between him and LCB, both ways. Also gives daydreams a Ml attack regardless of if dreamer is in play or not. Limited upgrade gives him an increase to his Wds and Cg, and 1 Ap for Ml attacks. Gives him a Ml attack with a trigger to swap places with a friendly nightmare model within 6". The Dreamer upgrades are ok, I run summoning Dreamer so the making daydreams more useful is tempting but the limited is not so interesting currently for me to give up the tool box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_acolyte Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, santaclaws01 said: So more on the titania upgrades. Both limited. One lets her gain whatever suit she wants for triggers in a duel with the enemy leader, and she deals +1 damage to them. Blocks healing and soulstone use in an aura around her. Gives her an action to deal damage to a model equal to their missing wounds with a max of 4, or 5 if they're the leader. Her other limited turns minions and enforcers into undead fae. She takes 2 less damage from minions and peons, 1 less from enforcers and henchmen. These reductions do not have a minimum like armor. Also gives an action to give a fae the armor +1 condition if they didn't already have the armor condition. Her conflux gives the emissary the ability to get a free suit as long as he's near a hungry land marker, and an action to give an effect to a friendly fae model. Armor +1, drop a scheme marker in base with them, heal 2, or give every model engaged with them burning +1. Overall Titania got quite the boost. Wow, is the transformation into undead fae and action or an auto thing? I am not sure which I like more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, D_acolyte said: Wow, is the transformation into undead fae and action or an auto thing? I am not sure which I like more. It's automatic. Models hired into her crew change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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